Another GR86 blown and warranty denied

[chris719]

not really their product like that dumb bmw they sell they shouldn't sell them

That dumb BMW is actually a great car though. The only Toyota I would buy right now, in fact.

 

[chris719]

100% agree but this has been an issue for years and years even on STI's. They must be running into some constraints that prevents them from fixing it.

It's simply them being cheap. It would be easy to baffle the oil pan, include another oil pickup and scavenging pump, or go dry sump. Most Subaru engines go into mainstream daily-driven cars without any real sporting intentions (Forester). They probably don't see a need to build them to handle any sort of G forces... but they really should provision them for something if they want to put them in the WRX and 86.



Pretty sad that the FA24 is even worse. Porsche before the 9A1 had some issues too, but at much higher forces.

 

[edyvw]

not really their product like that dumb bmw they sell they shouldn't sell them

That is pretty much only engine worth mentioning in their line up (except their diesels, which they buy from, well BMW).

 

[edyvw]

It's simply them being cheap. It would be easy to baffle the oil pan, include another oil pickup and scavenging pump, or go dry sump. Most Subaru engines go into mainstream daily-driven cars without any real sporting intentions (Forester). They probably don't see a need to build them to handle any sort of G forces... but they really should provision them for something if they want to put them in the WRX and 86.



Pretty sad that the FA24 is even worse. Porsche before the 9A1 had some issues too, but at much higher forces.

Those are not any hard corners at all.
Too bad bcs. concept is really interesting.

 

[loneryder]

I thought this car was a Toyota. Saw one yesterday and it had Subaru badges all over it??

 

[edyvw]

@chris719
This makes me think, what were they testing? I mean, this video is super simple. I just cannot believe that they did not do appropriate testing to see those issues.

 

[PF52]

I thought this car was a Toyota. Saw one yesterday and it had Subaru badges all over it??

Toyota and Subaru each sell similar versions of the same car.

 

[chris719]

@chris719
This makes me think, what were they testing? I mean, this video is super simple. I just cannot believe that they did not do appropriate testing to see those issues.

I can only assume they knew but didn’t care to fix it.

 

[thescreensavers]

It's simply them being cheap. It would be easy to baffle the oil pan, include another oil pickup and scavenging pump, or go dry sump. Most Subaru engines go into mainstream daily-driven cars without any real sporting intentions (Forester). They probably don't see a need to build them to handle any sort of G forces... but they really should provision them for something if they want to put them in the WRX and 86.



Pretty sad that the FA24 is even worse. Porsche before the 9A1 had some issues too, but at much higher forces.

Subaru in its history has tried different pan designs to combat this as stated by KillerB, so they know about the issues. The performance envelope has increased, and in these specific applications Subaru should be doing more than just to allow low oil pressure which I am sure they know about. Lazy engineering EJ had the same issues no reason it should have been carried through.

 

[edyvw]

Subaru in its history has tried different pan designs to combat this as stated by KillerB, so they know about the issues. The performance envelope has increased, and in these specific applications Subaru should be doing more than just to allow low oil pressure which I am sure they know about. Lazy engineering EJ had the same issues no reason it should have been carried through.

I cannot not to think that someone said: "Whatever, people will buy it bcs. Toyota or Subaru."

 

[ZeeOSix]

I can only assume they knew but didn’t care to fix it.

Most likely, and Subaru probably figured a few seconds in the corners with low oil pressure isn't going to "blow it up", so all is good, lol.

 

[loneryder]

Toyota and Subaru each sell similar versions of the same car.

Both are 86's?

 

[Pew]

Both are 86's?

Yes. The GR86 used to be called the FRS, which was the Subaru BRZ with some slightly different parts.

Lazy engineering EJ had the same issues no reason it should have been carried through.

From what I understand, the JDM EJ series didn't have the same issues as the EJ257 that NA got but I don't know any specifics about it.