Another bite of the Zimmerman apple?

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Originally Posted By: dishdude
I think he should have been convicted in Florida, but don't agree with the Feds pressing charges.

Personally I think he is guilty and a reckless individual, and he sure was able to fool the totally incompetent Sanford PD.



Please elaborate on he "totally incompetent Sanford PD."

Fact is they followed the law despite the political pressure of a community activist and it cost the chief his job. He is an example of what we all need for upper mngt in a PD. One who will NOT cower to the political correct or the "will" of a sect of people. What your missing is he did what no politician will do....he would not falter and abdicate his sworn obligation even in the face of special interest groups. AND when the local DA got the case, they too refused to press charges. It was a bad case from day 1.

Law is emotionless yet most continue to present feeling and emotion. Most had already made up their mind due to the media reports. I went back and forth as well after hearing the see - saw of nonsense that was spewed our way. Its human nature.

But not matter what you feel he was set free...that is a verdict that should be respected as it was legitimately come about. THis case reaks of whats wrong in America in so many facets on both sides. Yet we all keep on doing the same [censored] thing and expecting a different result. Isn't that the definition of ignorance??

Our politicians want and NEED this divide. Keeps us all busy and off of how they are screwing us. All of them, not just D's or R's. If I'm and educator in FL how do you not be embarrassed when a 19 year old woman, speaking English, had to have subtitles for the rest of the world to understand what she was saying? That is a school district failure which is a failure of society as a whole.

This once case has us all in a frenzy, yet 500 children dead in Chicago warrants barely a blerb in the media...oh wait, political. Yet in Mexico over 50k dead and that's not anything we involve ourselves in. Are we that ignorant and numb as a nation we only ponder what the media sets before us?

Maybe it's me...and I'm sure you will flame my [censored] but IDC what side you are on there are two adults (under the law they are adults) who BOTH engaged in an event unwittingly knowing how bad it would turn out. Either way BOTH knowingly engaged. This was a street not someones private property. Why aren't we outraged and publicizing events that occur in all states with a 100% unknowing victim and true perpetrator with clear and present malice?? Because the media didn't say we need to stand uo and scream?
 
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Sue the Media for the outright lies. ABC only showed pictures like this once.
 
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Where did ABC get pictures of me after cutting the grass in the back among the dense trees?
Seriously, if those are real wounds, they're nothing.
As anyone who's worked as a first responder/EMT knows, and I was one, real head wounds bleed copiously.
They don't just seep lightly.
These are insignificant wounds.
 
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Where did ABC get pictures of me after cutting the grass in the back among the dense trees?
Seriously, if those are real wounds, they're nothing.
As anyone who's worked as a first responder/EMT knows, and I was one, real head wounds bleed copiously.
They don't just seep lightly.
These are insignificant wounds.


But they do demonstrate that GZ was on his back on the pavement/sidewalk. TM is considerably taller than GZ. At that point, with TM on top of him and hitting him, regardless of events that immediately preceded, was it reasonable for GZ to feel threatened?

A jury of his peers thought so.
 
The wounds by themselves demonstrate nothing, just as a photograph by itself does not contitute evidence without testimony to put it into context, and that is settled law.
However...
I'm not trying to argue the verdict in this thread, and I guess I should refrain from appearing to do so.
My point was that the trial has ended, the verdict has been rendered and that any effort by federal authorities to bring GZ to trial yet again is something we should all deplore.
 
Originally Posted By: rshaw125
The Florida trial should never have happened. It probably would not have if it was not for the pressure from Washington.

Sad case but when an armed person is attacked by a wanna be 'gangsta' bad things happen.

+1 If the "poor lad" had ANY social skills at all he might have talked to GZ instead of using the "hood" approach, and defused the whole thing, but such skills are not encouraged - for such people it "ain't kool" to talk to a "white hispanic" man to man. You gotta tilt you head and look at the sky to show "da world" what you think of such people.
 
We don't know what happened between Zimmerman and Martin.
We only know what Zimmerman told the world.
We do know that Zimmerman was acquited, and that should be the end of it.
Your post is nothing more than race baiting, something we should all avoid.
 
Originally Posted By: Mystic
Zimmerman should never have been even tried on Second Degree Murder charges. Even if there had been an attempt to charge him on Manslaughter charges most of the legal experts say that case would have been weak. So now the Justice Department under Holder are going to get involved.

What a lot of people do not know is that the FBI has already investigated to see if Zimmerman engaged in a hate crime. They could not find any evidence. So there has already been an investigation and the investigation turned up nothing.

In addition, there is evidence that a woman in the District Attorney's office in that Florida city tried to withhold evidence from the Defense. That woman may actually face criminal charges over this and a man was fired because he knew it was wrong what they were doing and he did not want to be held responsible himself.

This whole thing is getting more disturbing every day that goes by.
+1 on the "discovery" shennagians. It's a state's attorney trick as old as the hills. Harvard boy got kicked out up here for springing "star witnesses" at the last moment in five cases in a row.
 
What I find so interesting is the state's "star witness" in this case going on TV with some media mouthpiece and trashing the JURY for not being able to understand HER hood speak. That's why we have school systems which are SUPPOSED to teach a commonly used form of English. It's YOUR problem, lady, and look where it got the state's case.
 
Originally Posted By: 97tbird
911 tells GZ not to follow, and he does JUST that, and ends up killing TM.
He should have been punished - he didn't even testify, guilty as [censored].
His life will never be the same though; and he deserves it.
"911" doesn't have the "right" to tell anybody anything.
 
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
We don't know what happened between Zimmerman and Martin.
We only know what Zimmerman told the world.
We do know that Zimmerman was acquited, and that should be the end of it.
Your post is nothing more than race baiting, something we should all avoid.
We are supposed to know what Martin told the star state witness on the phone, If the jury could have been able to understand her "new generation" speak.
 
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
I'll try really hard not to rehash the previous threads on this topic.
For you to write that the decedent was in an area he didn't belong is misguided.
What if a resident found you, or one of your children, in an area where he thought you didn't belong?
If you or your kids were confronted without any valid reason by someone who was no more than an amatuer, self appointed policeman, would you refuse to comply with their commands, and would you fight them off if they laid hands on you?

Seems Martin did the first laying on of hands, that's what the jury found, based on a witness. It's clear that Martin had a TOTAL lack of social skills.
 
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I bet as George was having his head beaten on the sidewalk, he was probably thinking, "Man this really hurts, but I'm sure it's only causing insignificant wounds, so no harm, no foul. But, by golly, if he pops my nose, the heater IS coming out!"
 
If no media in this case, nobody would commenting here.
Example; Look up Jacqueline Gardner. She was murdered for her tip money. I'll leave it there, you can look it up. Where was this on the "great news media"?????
 
Originally Posted By: DrDusty86
Wearing a hoodie in a subdivision gets him no browny points with me. He dressed thuggish, probably talked smack to GZ playing the part he dressed. WHAT WAS HE DOING WALKING AROUND AT 2:00AM anyway? looking for a place to break in and steal stuff.


The shooting occurred at about 7 p.m...please refrain from posting any further comments that are not factual.
 
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Originally Posted By: NHHEMI

100% dead on right. It is DISGUSTING what they are doing( or thinking of doing ). Just so wrong on so many levels I wouldn't know where to begin. It sickens me.


I think it's "DISGUSTING" what they're doing, even though they haven't actually done anything (besides look at whether or not there is a civil rights case which should be considered). Umm....OK.

Please, can people save all of this indignation for if and when they actually charge GZ, or is it just OK to think about it and then be mad about it? It's funny, this whole thread has just deteriorated into another "he was looking for it by being a thug and walking around at 2:00 AM" thread. WHOSE not letting it go??? Time to look in the mirror, folks.
 
Various civil rights leaders and others are encouraging demonstrations I think this coming weekend. There has already been a demonstration in Oakland, California where there was property damage and maybe injuries. So I am going to ask in advance, if some of those demonstrations turn violent and people are killed or injured, and if property belonging to people who had totally nothing to do with George Zimmerman and TM is destroyed, exactly how does all of that advance civil rights in this country? Oftentimes in these riots the damage is in the very neighborhoods of African Americans. So if somebody's restaurant gets burned to the ground, and that restaurant is in a low income area, and several local people lose their jobs and the owners lose their business, how does that advance civll rights? And if a store gets looted of goods, how does that advance civil rights?

I think there are a lot of politics going on here and the politicians are looking at the 2014 elections and they really only care about getting elected. They don't really care for anybody else. The politicians are playing ALL OF US! Think about it.
 
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
It's time for Zimmy to start suing!!



I agree, the charges were baseless and without merit.

If these idiots attempt some civil rights suit he should counter sue.

He is a "private citizen", it is laughable that these clowns just won't accept the final word based on the actual laws of Florida.


Blacks keep digging their own hole deeper and deeper.

The first mistake is supporting a criminal 17 year old thug, who attacked a neighborhood watchman without provocation, and committed assault and battery with attempted murder as well.
 
The corrupt mainstream media is playing its games. The civil rights leaders are playing their games. The politicians are playing their games. They are all playing us. If there are severe riots and typically those riots take place in the poor neighborhoods, and a lot of stores and so forth get destroyed, and there are fewer jobs than even before-the biggest losers will be the poor.

And nothing will be achieved to help the poor. Various politicians will benefit and get elected. The mainstream media can be proud of themselves for helping cause racial issues in this country. The ciivl rights leaders will have more power. The only ones who will lose will be the poor.

When the poor return to their neighborhoods there will be fewer businesses than before, fewer stores, less employment, etc. And the politicians they put into office will help themselves. Game tone, play it again.
 
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