Another bite of the Zimmerman apple?

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Originally Posted By: 97tbird

did you listen to the unedited version of 911 call recording from GZ and how he referred to people like TM?
(opening sentence of the 1st day of trial from the defense attorney - find it and listen )

He planned the thing from the very beginning, even while on the phone at the very beginning, IMO, AND chose to follow TM against 911 advice.

And that TM attacked him while GZ was returning to the car is not a fact - only GZ told us that - of course he would. He lied.


Did you see how TM referred to GZ as a crazy @#$ cracker? Is that not racist? Why do you ignore that and only imply GZ was the one with racial issues?

Well, if you know GZ lied then you must have been there. When did you testify in the trial? Please enlighten us all as to what really happened. I would love to know.

All most of can go by is the accounts of the witnesses who actually came forward and did testify, as well as the testimony of experts, that confirmed GZ's side of things. We don't have the benefit of a ring side seat like you apparantly had.

You seem to know better however so enlighten us please? Will you finally come forward and testify when the Fed's go after GZ?
 
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Originally Posted By: Astro14


Why can't folks accept the outcome of the trial?


Good question


Originally Posted By: Astro14
That's what is happening here on BITOG, on the talk shows, in the press and in public conversation. Mr. Zimmerman is being tried over and over again....


Yeah, the whole thread was started based on righteous indignation regarding the fact that "he might be charged again", despite the fact that I haven't seen a signal rational report that will happen... Then, people who feel one way or the other are just going to continue stating what they "feel". Here's what "is": was was found not guilty. There are no additional charges pending. Evidently, that won't stop the hand-wringing.
 
TM referring to GZ like that is not non-racist - BOTH of them did that - MY point was that te perosn who STARTED the whole thing referring to the other person shows his INTENT, even before any of the rest happened. TM referred to GZ in racial terms when GZ was following him, AGAINST the advice of the 911 dispatcher! GZ was referring to TM in racial terms when he was planning to start the whole thing - BIG difference!

and yeah, I don't have to be there, nor does anyone else who sees any logic - GZ lied.
 
Let me explain it to you. People are very uninformed in this country. Whenever interviewers question people on the streets about various current events and other matters many people have no answers to the questions. So yes, there is no connection between John Boehner and the Chicago violence. But I used that as an example of how people are unable to answer questions about a lot of different things that they probably should be able to answer. Boehner has been in the news enough. People probably should have some clue to who he is.

As for the Chicago violence, the reason I mentioned that should be obvious. The news media has no interest in the incredible violence in Chicago and other urban areas. The civil rights leaders seem to have no interest. The politicians don't seem very interested. But everybody seems to be able to get interested in one murder trial in Florida-the Zimmerman murder trial. Think about it a little bit-61 murders in Chicago during the Zimmerman Trial. No special report on MSNBC, NBC, CBS, CNN, or ABC-right? If there was any mention it was very brief. But wall to wall coverage for the Zimmerman Trial.
 
Originally Posted By: 97tbird
TM referring to GZ like that is not non-racist - BOTH of them did that - MY point was that te perosn who STARTED the whole thing referring to the other person shows his INTENT, even before any of the rest happened. TM referred to GZ in racial terms when GZ was following him, AGAINST the advice of the 911 dispatcher! GZ was referring to TM in racial terms when he was planning to start the whole thing - BIG difference!

and yeah, I don't have to be there, nor does anyone else who sees any logic - GZ lied.


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Originally Posted By: 97tbird

did you listen to the unedited version of 911 call recording from GZ and how he referred to people like TM?
(opening sentence of the 1st day of trial from the defense attorney - find it and listen )

He planned the thing from the very beginning, even while on the phone at the very beginning, IMO, AND chose to follow TM against 911 advice.

And that TM attacked him while GZ was returning to the car is not a fact - only GZ told us that - of course he would. He lied.


We have all listened and zero racial overtones were involved. Questions asked and answered.

Wait - you allege repeatedly he PLANNED on killing TM? Pure speculation. Where is the evidence of this?

The facts, the evidence show that TM attacked GZ. And your story requires that we assume GZ lied. You just assume he lied, so it must be true.

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Mr. O’Mara also asked Officer Serino what he thought about Mr. Zimmerman’s comment saying he wished that the altercation had been videotaped.

“Either he was telling the truth or he was a complete pathological liar,” Officer Serino replied. In this case, Mr. O’Mara asked, did he believe Mr. Zimmerman was telling the truth, given all the evidence? “Yes,” the officer replied. The court then recessed for the day.
 
Originally Posted By: Astro14
Originally Posted By: PandaBear

He make a mistake, he better take responsibility of it. Someone else is dead because of his neglect (you shoot someone when it can be avoided to begin with if you do not follow him), you face trail. It is that simple.


Mr. Zimmerman faced a trial (which is what you meant, right?). The evidence was presented. The jury reached a verdict. Not Guilty...and the simple point is this: that trial is now over.

Why can't folks accept the outcome of the trial?

Or, do you think that he should face trial over and over until the public gets the verdict they want based on an emotional interpretation of select facts?

That's what is happening here on BITOG, on the talk shows, in the press and in public conversation. Mr. Zimmerman is being tried over and over again....

Best post I've seen on here in a long while. Thank you Astro14.
 
I think all of us need to get past the Zimmerman Trial. It is over and the guy was found not guilty. And it was a local event that was unfairly turned into a national event. It is time to deal with more important issues.

Don't let the politicians and the news media and the rest play us. If somebody really wanted to help a major political figure or civil rights figure could go to Chicago and talk about how the violence in the lower income neighborhoods needs to end. It is like a war zone in some of these major cities.
 
Please No More post about Zimmerman. Everything has been said about the case and let's move on to something else.

This thread has deteriorated to politics, bypassing the censor, etc. = lock time
 
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