Amsoil XL
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I'm currently at 13 months with Amsoil 5W30 OE in my truck.
I would imagine most people would. A lot of people here would use a conventional past 6 months. A synthetic should be fine much longer. worry more about hours or mileage used rather than how long it has been in the sump.
One bloke on here ran it over 20k miles
I assume that Amsoil XL and OE oils are more $$ than PP or Mobil 1 at Walmart. Thus I see no need to buy Amsoil XL or OE since PP/Mobil 1 (and others) are a better oil. Now the top-shelf Amsoil is as good as the PP/Mobil 1 but a lot more expensive.
I am not putting down Amsoil products. I do use their ATF and SVG gear oils.
I am not putting down Amsoil products. I do use their ATF and SVG gear oils.
I don't know, taking just one quart at a time, just priced 5w30 XL at Amsoil for $6 a quart. Got online and priced various Mobil 1 5w30's at my local Walmart at anywhere from M1 5w30 at $7.98 to M1 EP 5w30 at $8.98. Of course, that is one quart packages. Can get better pricing on volume, but then, one can get better pricing on the Amsoil products in volume as well. As for which is better, no clue and not concerned. Neither are my standard "go to" oils. Just doing some quick price comparison. PQIA tested Amsoil OE and SS and showed they compare or exceed anything else on the market, and the XL should fall right in the middle between the OE and SS.
There is so much negative commenting on Amsoil on this forum but no proof of anything. I've never seen a side by side UOA of amsoil vs anything. Yet it is basically a "fact" at this point that amsoil is overpriced. Seems crazy to me that people who are supposed to be informed about oil make so many assumptions.
I've been looking at amsoil OE but my local Napa only have XL in bulk. On paper they seem to be very similar with the XL just having more TBN. Very tempted to give it a try, I've always had positive results with any Amsoil product I've used.
I've been looking at amsoil OE but my local Napa only have XL in bulk. On paper they seem to be very similar with the XL just having more TBN. Very tempted to give it a try, I've always had positive results with any Amsoil product I've used.
When the PQIA looked at a bunch of synthetic 5W30s in 2013, Amsoil OE was sort of a middle of the pack oil...M1 and QSUD both had higher TBNs, lower % loss in the NOACK test, and lower CCS viscosity, for example.
http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/Marchsyntheticsallfinal.html
When they tested SS 5W30 in 2012, it was a different story...very impressive results all around (probably to be expected for the price). I'd think hard about using it if not for the massive calcium dose, which worries me in a DIT engine (LSPI).
http://www.pqiamerica.com/ATF Feb 2012/2012 April results/Amsoil.htm
FWIW...too bad these test results are so old, but I can't complain about free.
http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/Marchsyntheticsallfinal.html
When they tested SS 5W30 in 2012, it was a different story...very impressive results all around (probably to be expected for the price). I'd think hard about using it if not for the massive calcium dose, which worries me in a DIT engine (LSPI).
http://www.pqiamerica.com/ATF Feb 2012/2012 April results/Amsoil.htm
FWIW...too bad these test results are so old, but I can't complain about free.
Agreed and well said but you know who cares about what others say..
Yes I'm not a big fan of Amsoil but have used it. No issues. But I'm no fan of Mobil 1 either
because of its frequent rebates its the darling of the cheapskates....
At the end of the day stealing something makes it wonderful on here.........
To me rebates are a big scam unless they give you an instant one on the product...... Most people never send them in or get refused.
Originally Posted By: JoelB
There is so much negative commenting on Amsoil on this forum but no proof of anything. I've never seen a side by side UOA of amsoil vs anything. Yet it is basically a "fact" at this point that amsoil is overpriced. Seems crazy to me that people who are supposed to be informed about oil make so many assumptions.
I've been looking at amsoil OE but my local Napa only have XL in bulk. On paper they seem to be very similar with the XL just having more TBN. Very tempted to give it a try, I've always had positive results with any Amsoil product I've used.
Yes I'm not a big fan of Amsoil but have used it. No issues. But I'm no fan of Mobil 1 either
because of its frequent rebates its the darling of the cheapskates....
At the end of the day stealing something makes it wonderful on here.........
To me rebates are a big scam unless they give you an instant one on the product...... Most people never send them in or get refused.
Originally Posted By: JoelB
There is so much negative commenting on Amsoil on this forum but no proof of anything. I've never seen a side by side UOA of amsoil vs anything. Yet it is basically a "fact" at this point that amsoil is overpriced. Seems crazy to me that people who are supposed to be informed about oil make so many assumptions.
I've been looking at amsoil OE but my local Napa only have XL in bulk. On paper they seem to be very similar with the XL just having more TBN. Very tempted to give it a try, I've always had positive results with any Amsoil product I've used.
Originally Posted By: KingCake
scamsoil? nope. I don't like to throw my money away.
Now the OP didn't ask if Amsoil.com was a scam now did he? Don't butt into a conversation when you have nothing meaningful to add about THAT particular topic.
scamsoil? nope. I don't like to throw my money away.
Now the OP didn't ask if Amsoil.com was a scam now did he? Don't butt into a conversation when you have nothing meaningful to add about THAT particular topic.
Originally Posted By: Andyge
has any one gone past the 6 month OCI with Amsoil XL?
Andy
Yes people do 1 year OCI's on Amsoil OE and XL. They are the same base oil motor oils with XL having a bit better additive package. There are a couple UOA's here on OE in particular (which can be had for under $5/qt) that went xx,xxx miles, and looked great.
Used to be the mods here deleted useless abusive posts that didn't answer questions, just showed the trolls for who they are.
has any one gone past the 6 month OCI with Amsoil XL?
Andy
Yes people do 1 year OCI's on Amsoil OE and XL. They are the same base oil motor oils with XL having a bit better additive package. There are a couple UOA's here on OE in particular (which can be had for under $5/qt) that went xx,xxx miles, and looked great.
Used to be the mods here deleted useless abusive posts that didn't answer questions, just showed the trolls for who they are.
I'm going to try the SS on my next change.
OP I don`t think you`ll be disappointed in the Amsoil. I have been running the XL in a 2013 Frontier with occasional use of Valvoline Synpower. I did notice that the SynPower was quieter at start up but also ran the OEM filter as well as a CQ premium filter.
I`ve also run the XL in the Titan which is modded, and the last OCI was with the SS. I do not go the distance on either bc I consider the truck severe service schedule @ 5K intervals using the Amsoil. doesn`t matter what others think it`s my coin.
Amsoil now offers free shipping during some events, and that when to stock up when your a Preferred member.
I think it`s around 5 bux a quart for the XL with a few dollars more for the SS.
in the past I`ve wasted enough time and gas looking for oil on the shelf VS just ordering from my office. the cost almost even out...
just do what works for you.
now wally world`s prices have been higher for the Synpower @ 26 for a 5qt jug VS the 22 earlier in the year. @ a 7 qt sump in the titan I`d always need to buy 3 jugs for 2 services or a case of the XL/SS.
I`ve also run the XL in the Titan which is modded, and the last OCI was with the SS. I do not go the distance on either bc I consider the truck severe service schedule @ 5K intervals using the Amsoil. doesn`t matter what others think it`s my coin.
Amsoil now offers free shipping during some events, and that when to stock up when your a Preferred member.
I think it`s around 5 bux a quart for the XL with a few dollars more for the SS.
in the past I`ve wasted enough time and gas looking for oil on the shelf VS just ordering from my office. the cost almost even out...
just do what works for you.
now wally world`s prices have been higher for the Synpower @ 26 for a 5qt jug VS the 22 earlier in the year. @ a 7 qt sump in the titan I`d always need to buy 3 jugs for 2 services or a case of the XL/SS.
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Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: Andyge
has any one gone past the 6 month OCI with Amsoil XL?
Andy
Yes people do 1 year OCI's on Amsoil OE and XL. They are the same base oil motor oils with XL having a bit better additive package. There are a couple UOA's here on OE in particular (which can be had for under $5/qt) that went xx,xxx miles, and looked great.
Used to be the mods here deleted useless abusive posts that didn't answer questions, just showed the trolls for who they are.
Pablo, I had some harsh word for Amsoil. But I have to take my words back. Let's put price of oil to the side (M1 5W30 ESP is $12.5 in some stores), but I respect Amsoil for getting some approvals (hopefully they get Euro approvals for all their Euro ine oils).
Anyway, can you confirm here that their base stock is 50% or more PAO? For example, their 5W30 oil that got VW 504.00/507.00 approval looks really good, and 5W40 looks OK (nothing special though) but if it is PAO based then you got my attention.
SO is it 50% or more PAO based or not?
Originally Posted By: Andyge
has any one gone past the 6 month OCI with Amsoil XL?
Andy
Yes people do 1 year OCI's on Amsoil OE and XL. They are the same base oil motor oils with XL having a bit better additive package. There are a couple UOA's here on OE in particular (which can be had for under $5/qt) that went xx,xxx miles, and looked great.
Used to be the mods here deleted useless abusive posts that didn't answer questions, just showed the trolls for who they are.
Pablo, I had some harsh word for Amsoil. But I have to take my words back. Let's put price of oil to the side (M1 5W30 ESP is $12.5 in some stores), but I respect Amsoil for getting some approvals (hopefully they get Euro approvals for all their Euro ine oils).
Anyway, can you confirm here that their base stock is 50% or more PAO? For example, their 5W30 oil that got VW 504.00/507.00 approval looks really good, and 5W40 looks OK (nothing special though) but if it is PAO based then you got my attention.
SO is it 50% or more PAO based or not?
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Originally Posted By: CT8
What makes PAO so special?
I just do not like HC oils.
I get argument that it is end product that matters, but I also like "true" synthetic. I use Castrol 0W40 in Tiguan because it is PAO based. I use Valvoline in BMW because on paper looks really good and there are no LL-04 oils in 5W40 weight that are PAO based easily available and look good on paper (Motul for example looks weak with HTHS numbers).
Also, Amsoil is very transparent in their numbers. They post NOACK for all Euro oils (Valvoline does the same actually). Mobil1 and Castrol are hiding that data or HTHS data or whatever. So PAO and good numbers on the paper might make me switch to Amsoil. I would also feel better helping smaller company.
What makes PAO so special?
I just do not like HC oils.
I get argument that it is end product that matters, but I also like "true" synthetic. I use Castrol 0W40 in Tiguan because it is PAO based. I use Valvoline in BMW because on paper looks really good and there are no LL-04 oils in 5W40 weight that are PAO based easily available and look good on paper (Motul for example looks weak with HTHS numbers).
Also, Amsoil is very transparent in their numbers. They post NOACK for all Euro oils (Valvoline does the same actually). Mobil1 and Castrol are hiding that data or HTHS data or whatever. So PAO and good numbers on the paper might make me switch to Amsoil. I would also feel better helping smaller company.
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