I'm buying a new string trimmer soon. Might be an Echo srm-3020. I plan to use Amsoil Saber and I don't know which ratio to start with. The owner's manual says 50:1, but lots of guys are running with less oil. The machine has a catalytic converter so I'm hesitant to use a more concentrated mix. Thanks.
Amsoil Saber advice please
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I imagine this machine will be run WOT 90+% of it's time I'd be at 40:1 but no less than 50:1 ever.
Personally I'd run VPracing 2T oil or Echo Red Armor synthetic both at 40:1
Run the Saber 50:1. It's a great oil. No problem.
Ive been running it at 50 to 1 for years now with great results.
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Another vote for Saber at 50.1.
Or 50:1
I run it at 60:1 for my lawn biz...93 octane ethanol free. Mix of stihl equipment and echo. No problems.
Up to 100:1.
Just pulled the plugs from a pair of Stihl TS800s I've been running on Amsoil Saber mixed at 66:1. The one plug was fouling slightly while the other looks pretty clean. Both machines have been getting regular use under heavy load (only Rebar).
Also just added a new TS910i to the fleet. The EFI on this thing is a game-changer, throttle response is way smoother and it seems to sip less fuel compared to the carb models. Im running Saber in it as well and monitor how it affects performance and plug life.
So far, Saber seems to burn pretty clean, especially compared to Stihl Ultra, which I found led to heavier carbon buildup and more frequent plug fouling in the TS800s. I'm curious if anyone else running TS saws at 80:1 or even 100:1 with Saber has seen consistent plug performance? Any long-term feedback on carbon build-up, engine temps, or internal wear?
Also just added a new TS910i to the fleet. The EFI on this thing is a game-changer, throttle response is way smoother and it seems to sip less fuel compared to the carb models. Im running Saber in it as well and monitor how it affects performance and plug life.
So far, Saber seems to burn pretty clean, especially compared to Stihl Ultra, which I found led to heavier carbon buildup and more frequent plug fouling in the TS800s. I'm curious if anyone else running TS saws at 80:1 or even 100:1 with Saber has seen consistent plug performance? Any long-term feedback on carbon build-up, engine temps, or internal wear?
i see, big difference there
I've been using it for a number of years in my residential ope at 70:1. It burns clean, my spark plugs are a light tan color, no build up on the spark arrester, equipment revs easy and fast and starts quickly on 87 E10 gas. Also there is no nasty noxious smoke or fumes. For me it works good for what I do.
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I've run a half dozen quarts of Saber in my OPE trimmer and leaf blower at 100:1 and never missed a beat. I have also run Opti-2 at the same ratio and not burned anything up yet. In fact, the only time I ever have issues with oil in my 2-cycle OPE is when I get the need for the castor bean oil smell. Klotz and Blendzall make some delicious smelling lubricants and they're difficult to resist. But... I ALWAYS have gummed up piston rings after burning a couple of gallons of bean oil.
I think it's a huge psychological issue to recommend a mix ratio of 100:1. It just goes against all that is right in the universe. That doesn't mean the engines won't last forever at the ratio but it's just hard to grasp. I'll 2nd or 3rd the recommendation for Saber.
I think it's a huge psychological issue to recommend a mix ratio of 100:1. It just goes against all that is right in the universe. That doesn't mean the engines won't last forever at the ratio but it's just hard to grasp. I'll 2nd or 3rd the recommendation for Saber.
There is 1 guy that posts You-Tube Videos about different 2 stroke oils in Chainsaws, and he then opens up the Chainsaw and you get a peak at the Internals. 50 to 1 leaves a coating on the Piston Rings, but not much at the Crank area of the Chainsaw. This person is a big believer in running a 40 to 1 oil mixture.
There is another youtuber who has used every oil except Amsoil Saber Pro, and he is a big believer in running his 2-stroke equipment at 40 to 1
I run Amsoil Saber Pro at 42.6 to 1, basically 3 ounces of oil to 1 gallon of gasoline. My Backpack Blower has a high rev of maybe 6700 rpms, the Trimmer might be 9000 rpms, and the chainsaw is about 13,000 rpms or so. Low revs, idling, or high rpm stuff, this oil holds up great.
There is only 1 2 stroke oil out there that comes close to being as good as Amsoil Saber Pro, and that is Honda HP-2 Two Stroke Oil. When the 1 youtuber opened up his saw a day after using it, he did comment that it left the best film on the saw, meaning the Honda HP-2
There is another youtuber who has used every oil except Amsoil Saber Pro, and he is a big believer in running his 2-stroke equipment at 40 to 1
I run Amsoil Saber Pro at 42.6 to 1, basically 3 ounces of oil to 1 gallon of gasoline. My Backpack Blower has a high rev of maybe 6700 rpms, the Trimmer might be 9000 rpms, and the chainsaw is about 13,000 rpms or so. Low revs, idling, or high rpm stuff, this oil holds up great.
There is only 1 2 stroke oil out there that comes close to being as good as Amsoil Saber Pro, and that is Honda HP-2 Two Stroke Oil. When the 1 youtuber opened up his saw a day after using it, he did comment that it left the best film on the saw, meaning the Honda HP-2
Try re-calibrating to m/troinc carb to whatever ratio you stick with. I'd personally keep it at 60:1 or 50:1.
Use the oil mix the manual recommends.
Who knows more and has blown up more engines in testing and design, the manufacturer or BITOG'ers.
I'm still burning up my Klotz supply from my old 2 stroke sleds in my OPE. Good enough for expensive 500cc sled motors, not even a concern for throw away OPE motors.
Who knows more and has blown up more engines in testing and design, the manufacturer or BITOG'ers.
I'm still burning up my Klotz supply from my old 2 stroke sleds in my OPE. Good enough for expensive 500cc sled motors, not even a concern for throw away OPE motors.
Check this out....
I wrote Amsoil today and within 2 hours I had a response.... I asked them if I bought a new srm-3020 what oil ratio of Saber would be best. Their response.....
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Thank you for being an AMSOIL customer. First off, using AMSOIL ATP at any ratio will not void your warranty based of the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act.
ATP can be used at any ratio but if you're not comfortable with the 100:1, I would start at 50:1. You can adjust the ratio based on how it is running, you may find it is optimal at 80:1. Because of the conditioners in the product, you can start it at any ratio you desire. But we do recommend the Saber Ratio 100:1 for maximum benefits.
Here is the data sheet to provide you more information on this product. G-1987 Data Sheet.pdf
Enjoy your new string trimmer and have a nice day!!
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