Amsoil EAO17 versus Royal Purple 20-500

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Originally Posted By: RF Overlord
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
You could have media that is "20 microns", but if it's only 80% efficient at 20 microns then it's not very good media.
Hey. Is that a dig against Motorcraft?
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Originally Posted By: RF Overlord
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
You could have media that is "20 microns", but if it's only 80% efficient at 20 microns then it's not very good media.
Hey. Is that a dig against Motorcraft?
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It should not be; Amsoil shows the MC FL-820s at 93.7% @ 20 microns
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Originally Posted By: 2010_FX4
Originally Posted By: RF Overlord
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
You could have media that is "20 microns", but if it's only 80% efficient at 20 microns then it's not very good media.
Hey. Is that a dig against Motorcraft?
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It should not be; Amsoil shows the MC FL-820s at 93.7% @ 20 microns
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Amsoil does a better job of advertising Motorcraft filters than Motorcraft does.
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Amsoil does a better job of advertising Motorcraft filters than Motorcraft does.
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Too right!
 
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Amsoil does a better job of advertising Motorcraft filters than Motorcraft does.
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True that! As for the Honda A-02 and the Toyota oem, ehhh not so much.
 
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix

Amsoil does a better job of advertising Motorcraft filters than Motorcraft does.
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Motorcraft relies on WalMart, Ford's brand name, and a cheap price to do that.
 
It is very interesting also to compare new Purolator synthetic oil filter and AMSOIL EAO filter.
(For example, Purolator PSL24651 vs AMSOIL EAO11.)

Which is more solid, has better filtering efficiency and why?
 
Originally Posted By: Unleashedbeast
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix

Amsoil does a better job of advertising Motorcraft filters than Motorcraft does.
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Motorcraft relies on WalMart, Ford's brand name, and a cheap price to do that.


I'm talking in terms of filtering performance. Ford shoots themselves in the foot with their "80% @ 20 microns" ... Amsoil shows they are much better than that. Go figure ...
 
Originally Posted By: Unleashedbeast
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
I doubt Amsoil has their own oil filter factory ... they may farm out all their filter, so at least some of them. This Ea017 sure looks this way.


Amsoil has always outsourced their filters, that is not a mystery. The mystery is, this is obviously a Champion Labs filter, however...no mention anywhere as to written, or posted evidence.

Originally Posted By: Hannibal
Champ is making the Amsoil line now as some on here have suspected. There will still be many in the field that aren't Champ produced, but going forward they are.

Champ may not recognize this for a few reasons. First, Champ is the largest private label manufacturer out there. Many of their customers do not want it known and Champ has no reason to disclose. Second, they just recently obtained the line so it hasn't been a Champ product for a long time. Third, Champ doesn't always cover the specifics (tech info) on the filters (from a support to the public standpoint) and it's easier to push those questions back to the nameplate to handle them.

The major differences as laid out here already are the zinc coated back plate and color of the silicon AD valve.


A non-disclosure statement sounds about right here. You are correct, the new EAO filters from Amsoil haven't been under the new supplier very long. This was a recent change the past summer.

I'm most curious to know if the filter media is exactly the same, or different. Royal Purple does not discuss their version being capable of extended use as Amsoil does. This may, or may not, reflect that a different version of media is being used, i.e. denser.


If I remember correctly Amsoil uses a filter media made by Donaldson or Hastings. They re-named it in their own filters.
Hey beast. Long time since we've chatted. How's the mustang running.
I'm not positive exactly where the media originally comes from however I am confident they just re-badge it.
So doesn't champ labs make fram too?
 
Originally Posted By: Clevy
... So doesn't champ labs make fram too?

Not really, no. Up until Rank bought Champ then awhile later bought Fram, they were completely separate entities.

Now under Rank Grp. Champ has been placed under the larger more well known Fram banner. But, Champ filter construction is still fairly easily distinguished from Fram filter construction.

The one filter now labeled Fram on the label that is currently made by Champ is the Wally TLE oil filters. They are basically the old Super Tech filter with a grippy texture surface but they are not for retail sale. They replaced the TLE Fram orange cans that they used to use.

As for the topic, a recent evo Mitsubishi filter testing thread posted here showed that Amsoil has/had filters made by both Wix and Champ. The latter as indicated in this thread.
 
Champion is making both Royal Purple's and Amsoil's oil filter now.

Originally Posted By: Clevy
Hey beast. Long time since we've chatted. How's the mustang running.


I lost the 2009 GT500 in an accident, then took about 13 months rest from the Mustang world....was driving a 2012 Focus Titanium. In July, I replaced the Focus with another 2014 Mustang GT. All is well, but starting over with mods is a slow process when you have to wait.
 
If you compare AMSOIL and Red Purple (EaO17 and 20-500 or EaO11 and 20-820), is there any difference in thickness of steel? Is there a difference in the weights of each pair of filters?
 
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Originally Posted By: Izb
If you compare AMSOIL and Red Purple (EaO17 and 20-500 or EaO11 and 20-820), is there any difference in thickness of steel? Is there a difference in the weights of each pair of filters?


None noted, as they feel identical.
 
Originally Posted By: Unleashedbeast
Originally Posted By: Izb
If you compare AMSOIL and Red Purple (EaO17 and 20-500 or EaO11 and 20-820), is there any difference in thickness of steel? Is there a difference in the weights of each pair of filters?


None noted, as they feel identical.


I have found information about different Burst pressure: Amsoil (330psi), Royal Purple(600psi).

p.s. http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-engine-...g63t-4b11t.html
 
Originally Posted By: Izb
Originally Posted By: Unleashedbeast
Originally Posted By: Izb
If you compare AMSOIL and Red Purple (EaO17 and 20-500 or EaO11 and 20-820), is there any difference in thickness of steel? Is there a difference in the weights of each pair of filters?


None noted, as they feel identical.


I have found information about different Burst pressure: Amsoil (330psi), Royal Purple(600psi).

p.s. http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-engine-...g63t-4b11t.html


Have to be careful comparing Amsoil to RP in that thread. The filters are not direct matches off the same assembly line, like they are in this thread.
 
Originally Posted By: Izb
I have just checked: Royal Purple oil filter is 40g/ heavier then Amsoil EaO.


You weighed an Amsoil Ea017 and a Royal Purple 20-500, correct?

I ask because they feel exactly the same to me, and I have both.
 
I work for a chemical, carpet fiber, nylon polymer manufacturing facility, so we have precision measuring equipment in all of the labs. This one was located in Quality Control. Using the scale, you can clearly see the Amsoil Ea017 weighs almost 7 grams more than the Royal Purple 20-500.

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correct, just received from USA...
p.s. May be, previous version of EaO (made in Mexico) had more weight, but current version made in USA.
 
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