Ammo & Firearms Deal Thread

[billt460]

I thought I would start a thread strictly for good ammo and firearms deals in general. Just be sure your links work. And to be safe, don't post links from any place that doesn't accept major credit cards. Visa, American Express, etc.

A lot of scam sites will have unbelievable low prices, along with showing every powder brand in stock. And they will only accept cash transfers like Zelle and the like. Also, if they post an address look it up on Google Earth. If it's a private residence with a big Internet presence, it's most likely a scam site.

This is the best I've found so far for 9 MM. 124 Gr. FMJ brass cased for just $200.00 @ 1,000 shipped to your door. This stuff is made in Turkey, and it doesn't specify if it is boxer primed. The photo of their storefront shown below is off Google Earth. They're a legit business.

https://aeammo.com/limited-time-sal...d-case-free-shipping/?sku=BPS-22D919P006-1000

 

[Slick3914]

I’ll pay the extra $30 for American made Blazer over that stuff. Or better yet, load my own.

 

[tc1446]

Bill, I expect you might get more results if you posted this on one of the many gun forums where guys shop for ammo deals. Actually there is a site that lists all the current ammo prices, by caliber. I think it may be called "ammo seek" or something like that.

 

[billt460]

I’ll pay the extra $30 for American made Blazer over that stuff. Or better yet, load my own.

Handloading 9 MM, and several other calibers, is not worth the trouble today. With the high cost of components, along with the lack of availability of many powders in quantity, it's cheaper to shoot factory 9 MM Ball. I save all my brass in case it ever becomes economically viable again. And that's a big if.

It's much the same with clay target shotshell loads. The only reason I'm still loading 12 ga. is because I have a large amount of shot and other components that I purchased years ago at good prices.

When that runs out, I'm not going to pay $50 / $60+ a bag for shot, and powder that is over $300.00+ for a 8 pound jug. I'll just retire my presses and shoot factory stuff, and keep the hulls. And you also have to figure your time is worth something as well.

The rifle / pistol / shotgun powder shortage, and sky high prices it's demanding today, are the result of a worldwide nitrocellulose shortage. And it could be a very long time before that ever sorts itself out. If it ever does.

Reloading today for many calibers and gauges is just not worth it from an economic standpoint. Even if you already have the necessary equipment. Unless you're into wildcatting, and / or precision benchrest competition.

 

[Astro14]

Ammoseek.com is a very useful tool.

However, I used it to buy some Winchester brand subsonic 300 blackout, and the ammo was in poor condition, and the seller is refusing any sort of assistance, claiming that I have to go back to Winchester about it.

Well, I don’t think it’s Winchester’s fault, I think the ammo was stored improperly.

So, while ammoseek may return the best price, I’m not willing to deal with a retailer with whom I have no experience, since I bought 1000 rounds of this stuff, and the first 200 have been a huge disappointment. As you guys know 1000 rounds of 300 blackout is not an inexpensive proposition.

I’ve bought tens of thousands of rounds from sgammo.com. All flawless.

And I will take a reasonable price from a trusted seller, over a rock-bottom price from someone I don’t know, having been burned on this case of ammo.

 

[billt460]

Astro, what exactly was wrong with the stuff?

 

[Astro14]

Astro, what exactly was wrong with the stuff?

External water spots/corrosion visible on the brass.

Ran like garbage in my Daniel Defense SBR. Misfires. cycling problems. My Daniel defense has been flawless with every round of ammo I had ever put into it until this batch. On the same day I ran a couple of other brands and they were fine.

@Rand was there, and can tell you what he saw.

Allow me to add that my Daniel Defense has a Q suppressor on it, so if anything, it’s a bit over-gassed, but it ran like it was way under gassed with this ammo.

I just think that the ammo got wet, it was a bit corroded, and the powder did not perform properly. I’m not sure I blame Winchester, I think it was improperly stored.

I’ve had that rifle out to the range several times since, and it’s ran flawlessly. It just doesn’t run well on that particular Winchester batch.

And I 100% blame that ammo.

 

[Slick3914]

Handloading 9 MM, and several other calibers, is not worth the trouble today. With the high cost of components, along with the lack of availability of many powders in quantity, it's cheaper to shoot factory 9 MM Ball. I save all my brass in case it ever becomes economically viable again. And that's a big if.

It's much the same with clay target shotshell loads. The only reason I'm still loading 12 ga. is because I have a large amount of shot and other components that I purchased years ago at good prices.

When that runs out, I'm not going to pay $50 / $60+ a bag for shot, and powder that is over $300.00+ for a 8 pound jug. I'll just retire my presses and shoot factory stuff, and keep the hulls. And you also have to figure your time is worth something as well.

The rifle / pistol / shotgun powder shortage, and sky high prices it's demanding today, are the result of a worldwide nitrocellulose shortage. And it could be a very long time before that ever sorts itself out. If it ever does.

Reloading today for many calibers and gauges is just not worth it from an economic standpoint. Even if you already have the necessary equipment. Unless you're into wildcatting, and / or precision benchrest competition.

Nonsense, I'm loading 9MM with 124 plated bullets for about $7.00/box at today's prices. S&A primers at $209/5000 delivered, 8lb Titegroup for $236 at a local shop and Berry's 124 plated bullets, recently purchased from Cabelas on sale for $77

 

[Cropduster172]

@billt460 ...thank you. You're right about the hand loading too. Time is one thing we all don't have enough of. I'm not spending mine reloading ammunition that is readily available. The folks that do it as a hobby... enjoy yourselves.

 

[billt460]

Nonsense, I'm loading 9MM with 124 plated bullets for about $7.00/box at today's prices. S&A primers at $209/5000 delivered, 8lb Titegroup for $236 at a local shop and Berry's 124 plated bullets, recently purchased from Cabelas on sale for $77

You are shooting lead plated bullets, and are trying to compare that to factory full metal jacket. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that. But they are what they are, which is why they are cheaper.

 

[Slick3914]

You are shooting lead plated bullets, and are trying to compare that to factory full metal jacket. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that. But they are what they are, which is why they are cheaper.

RMR jacketed bullets only add another $1/box. Their 124 Matchwinners shoot quite well out of my Shadow 2

 

[billt460]

@billt460 ...thank you. You're right about the hand loading too. Time is one thing we all don't have enough of. I'm not spending mine reloading ammunition that is readily available. The folks that do it as a hobby... enjoy yourselves.

I still enjoy reloading once and awhile. But 30 years ago there was a considerable savings to be had from doing it.

No longer. Component prices have increased to the point where it isn't worth the time. Except for the expensive Magnum calibers.

Then you have to figure hazmat and shipping. Which adds even more. For the clay target sports it just doesn't add up to be worth it.

 

[Astro14]

I do save the brass on a couple of calibers - .45-70, 7.5x55 Swiss, .30-40 Krag, and .30-06. No reloading ability right now, but those calibers are very expensive, and I will keep the brass from my .338 Federal, once I get around to completing the build.

 

[billt460]

I just saw where Dillon has a deal going where if you spend $250 or more on their reloading equipment, they'll throw in 1,000 once fired brass 9 mm cases free.

Apparently sales of reloading equipment has fallen off.

 

[ammolab]

business.

https://aeammo.com/limited-time-sal...d-case-free-shipping/?sku=BPS-22D919P006-1000

Cheap price but note they say: “this ammo may have harder primers than domestic ammo”….
That means: may not all fire in your Glock or other striker fired handguns.

 

[I<3oil]

Not a huge fan of supporting Turkey or Turkish brands but that's not bad priced

 

[Rand]

Not a huge fan of supporting Turkey or Turkish brands but that's not bad priced

Local regional chain fin feather fur had buffalo bore 9mm FMJ for 9.99/50 the other day. They have blazer brass for 11.99 often.

@Rand was there, and can tell you what he saw.

DD makes some great firearms (at least at my level of ownership )
First time I ever shot 300 blackout.. and subsonic with a suppressor was amazing.
That ammo not so much. I have never been a fan of winchester white box even in .22lr
and my opinion of it wasnt improved.

Bonus:
the M1 Garand was more accurate than my vision Esp. shooting it standing up with no rest etc.
You could say I had a "blast".

 

[billt460]

Cheap price but note they say: “this ammo may have harder primers than domestic ammo”….
That means: may not all fire in your Glock or other striker fired handguns.

Hard primers are very common in European 9 MM, as well as NATO 9 MM ammunition. This is because it is loaded to higher pressures in order to function better in sub machine guns.

I've fired a lot of 9 MM NATO in all of my Glocks and Beretta's without any issues. My guns all have stock springs.

 

[shortyb]

I just saw where Dillon has a deal going where if you spend $250 or more on their reloading equipment, they'll throw in 1,000 once fired brass 9 mm cases free.

Apparently sales of reloading equipment has fallen off.

It has because of the component/powder prices, shipping costs, availability etc. But not necessarily because of equipment prices, which has stayed pretty reasonable. I still do small batch reloading of mainly .40 S&W and .357SIG on my 3 station RCBS (with manual indexing ) because I can still do better than the price of factory ammo. 9mm? .556? Not when I can get it a lot cheaper than reload costs.

 

[billt460]

It has because of the component/powder prices, shipping costs, availability etc. But not necessarily because of equipment prices, which has stayed pretty reasonable. I still do small batch reloading of mainly .40 S&W and .357SIG on my 3 station RCBS (with manual indexing ) because I can still do better than the price of factory ammo. 9mm? .556? Not when I can get it a lot cheaper than reload costs.

I agree that it's not the price of equipment itself that has caused reloading to have fallen off. But as you mentioned just about everything else. Not to mention the lack of availability of many components, has caused many to cover up their presses, and others to walk away from the idea.

When I started reloading back in 1973, you could save a bundle over shooting factory ammo, in most any caliber or gauge. Today, not so much. To me saving a buck or two a box on common rounds like 9 MM, isn't worth my time and effort. But I do save all reloadable brass. Because things can, and often do change.

It's the same with 12 gauge target loads. Walmart prices on target shotshells today is hard to beat by reloading. Especially if you buy Winchester AA's or Remington STS's, you can sell the empties for a nickel a piece on most of the shotgun forums. That knocks off another $1.25 a box.