All about Carquest oil filters

Well. Federated is out for me. Checked at my local store today. The guy at the parts counter never heard of the Federated brand filters. So he called the area "VP" who oversees the eight stores in my area. He said he looked at those filters and declined to stock them as he thought they are "inferior" filters. They only stock WIX.

So I stopped by my Autozone and looked at the STP XL filters. All of them were Made in China.
 
Well. Federated is out for me. Checked at my local store today. The guy at the parts counter never heard of the Federated brand filters. So he called the area "VP" who oversees the eight stores in my area. He said he looked at those filters and declined to stock them as he thought they are "inferior" filters. They only stock WIX.

So I stopped by my Autozone and looked at the STP XL filters. All of them were Made in China.
Those STP XL made in China are the PG made filters. Just like Federated. Those are the ones you want.
 
I found that Rowleys Wholesale - https://www.rowleys.com/ - sellls Service Pro filters and that they ship. I was able to make an account and go through the check-out process. The E4622 Extended Protection Oil Filter, equivalent to the XG7317, sells in a six pack for $34.32, however the deal breaker is that they want $29.84 for FedEx Ground. I wonder if Rowleys could be convinced to offer a BITOG group buy discount. I'd bet if they could bring pricing down to $7-8 shipped, they'd probably sell a ton of them.
 
Is parts plus filters the same as carquest? I just ordered a couple dozen of the standard filter and the heft is impressive for such a small filter.
 
Is parts plus filters the same as carquest? I just ordered a couple dozen of the standard filter and the heft is impressive for such a small filter.

yeah usually if it shows made in China or Vietnam it is coming from Premium Guards network of factories that they contract with which also make most of the Carquest filters.
 
yeah usually if it shows made in China or Vietnam it is coming from Premium Guards network of factories that they contract with which also make most of the Carquest filters.
Mine are “Made in China”. I just walked in from the garage comparing the parts plus to a carquest premium. Minus the adbv, they look the same. The parts plus are actually a little longer than fram, champ and oem. If I had a digital scale I’d bet they’re heavier as well. Rock auto says it’s a 5k filter, but I’d have no problems running these the full length of the OLM.
 
Mine are “Made in China”. I just walked in from the garage comparing the parts plus to a carquest premium. Minus the adbv, they look the same. The parts plus are actually a little longer than fram, champ and oem. If I had a digital scale I’d bet they’re heavier as well. Rock auto says it’s a 5k filter, but I’d have no problems running these the full length of the OLM.

yeah you have the basic model which always comes with rubber parts like the Carquest basic model etc.. .. They also have the extended model which has the silicone adbv and silicone gasket which is the one comparable to the Carquest Premium.

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Just bought a few 85516 blue from RA. Black gasket, red silicone adbv, and a date code I’ve yet to find, lol.
I haven’t seen that gasket/adbv combo anywhere and I’m curious the mfg, so I might know its specs.
 
Those STP XL made in China are the PG made filters. Just like Federated. Those are the ones you want.
Are all of the filters under the PG umbrella that are made in China good to go? I have a Service Pro extended filter made in China in 2019. Not sure if the country where they are made/quality changed.
 
The Carquest Premium seem to be one of the best filter choices these days, so I did a pretty in depth look at Carquest's various offerings and though I'd share. Efficiency has been a common question brought up here, and I did my best to organize the contradictory information that is available.

MODELS

To start, Carquest filters come in three main types: the RFI Red Standard, the CFI Blue Premium, and the Heavy Duty. One common size that is available in all three variants is the Standard R85516 / Premium 85516 / Heavy Duty 85516HD. Whip City Wrencher has done a video comparison of the three here.

MANUFACTURER AND COUNTRY OF ORIGIN

The Red/Blue were once made by Affinia/Wix, then Fram/Champion, then Mann-Humel/Purolator from what I can tell. These days they are made by Premium Guard, which seems to have done a lot for their quality. Country of origin for the PG made filters is primarily China and Vietnam with similar quality for each, but maybe a small advantage to Vietnam-sourced. There's also been mention of some made in India, though I haven't seen that myself.

The Heavy Duty filters are from Hastings/Baldwin, and for many years have been made in the USA. Parker Hannifin acquired Baldwin in 2017 and it seems like more HDs might be being made in Mexico, though I'm not sure about that, or if the two are related.

EFFICIENCY

Carquest shows efficiency ratings of 96% @ 20 microns for the Standard and 99% @ 30 microns for the Premium. I believe these are outdated documents relevant to a previous manufacturer though. The first document goes back to at least August 2016. The second document is more complicated. In September 2015 it was advertising an improvement in efficiency from 96.6% @ 20 microns to 99.5% @ 20 microns. By July 2017 it was updated it its current version, which also shows the Premium as having a nitrile gasket, whereas current versions of the filter should have a silicone gasket.

Relatively recent documents from CQ/AAP show 95.1% @ 20 microns for the Standard and 99.5% @ 20 microns for the Premium. These latter ratings are also the ones found on the AAP product pages. The document for the Premium filter shows the correct silicone gasket.

In CQ's filter database, the former rating for the Premium is most common, as shown here, but the latter shows up as well, as shown here.

Complicating the efficiency question even more is the ratings for the associated Premium Guard filters. The PG195 and the PG195EX seem to be the Premium Guard filters corresponding to the Carquest Standard R85516 and Premium 85516. The PG195 and R85516 seem almost identical, but the PG195 is advertised with the 96% @ 20 micron rating. The PG195EX looks very similar to the 85516, but has a 99% @ 25 micron rating that doesn't match the others ratings seen.

Here's all that in a table:

Model/SourceOld CQNew CQ/AAPPG
Standard96% @ 20 µm95.1% @ 20 µm96% @ 20 µm
Premium99% @ 30 µm99.5% @ 20 µm99% @ 25 µm

Efficiency data for the HD versions is difficult to find, and I expect it to be more variable among different sizes of filters. Carquest's filter finder tool shows 28 µm for the 85516HD, but lacks any information about efficiency at that size. The Baldwin cross reference for that filter is the B243 which has a rating of 12 µm nominal / 30 µm absolute. I assume the associated percentages are 50% / 98.7%. This would make it less efficient than the Standard and Premium CQ filters. WCW's video has magnified images of each filters' media though, and visually it seems probable that the Standard is the least efficient.

The older associated Hastings model (LF134) didn't reveal any further efficiency information.

Interestingly, Baldwin offers two similar filters (B7511 and B2-HPG) with a 9.8 µm nominal / 27 µm absolute rating.

CONSTRUCTION

  • Gasket
    • Nitrile for Standard/Heavy Duty, Silicone for Premium. Most seem to be lathe cut, but some are molded P-style.
  • ADBV
    • Nitrile for Standard/Heavy Duty, Silicone for Premium.
  • Media
    • Cellulose for Standard, blended synthetic/cellulose for Premium, unknown for Heavy Duty.
    • Metal seam for Standard/Premium, glued seam for Heavy Duty.
    • Surface area is similar for the three models.
  • Core
    • Steel core with holes for Standard/Premium and louvers for Heavy Duty.
  • End Caps
    • Steel for all.
  • Bypass Spring
    • Coil spring for all.


That's about it. On a personal note, I'm happy with the Carquest Premium as my new go-to filter. My biggest concern is trying to deconflict those various efficiency values so that they can better be compared to competitors. Regarding competitors, the Baldwin B7511 was an interesting find. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of information available about it, but it seems worth looking into.
The problem is Carquest could be signing a new contract at the same time you did research.

Could be one company on East Coast and another on West Coast. One company could make some models and another others. One company in China and another in Mexico. Or just dual source from the get go so they don't get caught with their pants down and no filters. Hard to do business planning with unpredictable tarriffs.

I guessing these companies have the capabilities to o make filters of several quality types. You pick which ones you want and they slap your name on them.
 
yeah you have the basic model which always comes with rubber parts like the Carquest basic model etc.. .. They also have the extended model which has the silicone adbv and silicone gasket which is the one comparable to the Carquest Premium.

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whos sell ?
 
My local advance auto ,had made in USA car quest filters,older stock.its not listed on website as of last night me looking.. but possible it's in their computer .
It has M,or MP I think..those were USA made ones.
 
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