Right, because no drunk ever who’s had one of these imposed on them by a court for DUIs hasn’t found somebody sober to blow into their pipe
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They got wise to that possibility and the driver has to blow every 10 minutes while driving. If they fail to blow or fail the test, then it flashes the headlights and honks the horn. So if you ever see a vehicle with someone that looks hammered behind the wheel and the horn is honking and the headlights are flashing, you know what's going on.
That’s still not prevention, now, is it?
Prevention is when the vehicle with the ignition interlock is repo'd and towed away. Friend of mine actually repo'd one with an interlock last month!
Seriously, though, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the more modern interlocks will actually call the cops and tell them where you're at if you fail a re-test.
Are they going to warranty these devices forever. Or when it fails at 10 years am I supposed to scrap my car?
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There will probably be an aftermarket solution to it or some override if this becomes ubiquitous.
I had customers vehicles with the blow tube type interlocks and they still got into accidents. I don't recall these ever being from a DUI in the accident description notes nor do I recall having to go to a tow yard to retrieve an interlock equipped vehicle, though I'm sure it happens.
Body shop techs that didn't want to blow into the tube (which requires a long breath and some vibration with the mouth from what I'm told) are able to call the installer and get some type of code or procedure to override the system but it's a PITA IIRC.
So now we’re onto outright theft of property as being OK?
How will you feel when this power is used to your personal disadvantage? There are solutions in the justice system, not at the end of a government weapon.
Well, generally, if you don't pay your car note, the bank will order that the vehicle be repo'd. You agreed to that as a remedy for non-payment of the loan when you signed the contract.
I don't drive drunk, and I pay my bills.
Therefore, it will never happen that I will have a vehicle repo'd with an ignition interlock on it.
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You do realize, don't you, that the alternative to a court-ordered ignition interlock is not being allowed to drive AT ALL?
Seriously. I have no sympathy for anyone who screws up bad enough that they have to have an ignition interlock.
I also think it's rather stupid to require new vehicles to have this technology. And, as I said, it does nothing about pillheads and potheads.
“We will punish and inconvenience EVERYONE instead of just just enforcing existing DUI/DWI/OWI laws.”
Knew a few people who had MULTIPLE instances of driving drunk, it wasn’t until it had happened a few times that they (court) finally did something instead of a relative slap on the wrist. How about if you get caught once you get a court ordered ignition interlock for a year and a hefty fine. Caught twice you get a month in jail and your driving privileges revoked for a year. 3rd time? You’re done, 1 year in jail and you don’t get to drive again. Can’t stand people who drink and drive.
Knew a few people who had MULTIPLE instances of driving drunk, it wasn’t until it had happened a few times that they (court) finally did something instead of a relative slap on the wrist. How about if you get caught once you get a court ordered ignition interlock for a year and a hefty fine. Caught twice you get a month in jail and your driving privileges revoked for a year. 3rd time? You’re done, 1 year in jail and you don’t get to drive again. Can’t stand people who drink and drive.
That is stupid.
I regularly eat lunch at a pub, and drink water.
Food is good, adult atmosphere, nice waitresses, are amongst the reasons to eat there.
I knew someone who got enough DUIs that his license was revoked. The only way he could get it back would be to petition the court, and he'd have to do that no less than 5 years after his last DUI conviction. Assuming that the court granted it, he'd then have to have an ignition interlock on his vehicle for "at least" 6 months. (Note that these interlocks record failures, so they'll know that an attempt was made to start the vehicle while intoxicated).
I looked up the law in Virginia and, if I'm reading this right, that will happen on the 3rd DUI which, if it it's the 3rd DUI in 10 years, is punishable as a Class 6 Felony (1 to 5 years in prison and up to a $2500 fine).
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Folks, this covers far more than a dui interlock. Why this thread went straight down that path is beyond me. This covers your speed and matches it to posted speeds on the road that your gps says you're on, it applies to your global position and neighborhoods you frequent, your physical condition such as respiration rate, eye nystagmus, and even the inflection in your voice if you're speaking with a passenger.
This is the law we've all read about but never thought would materialize. It's here. The Infrastructure bill brought it into being. Welcome to 1984!
This is the law we've all read about but never thought would materialize. It's here. The Infrastructure bill brought it into being. Welcome to 1984!
The vast majority of the country, based on who they voted for, should have no problem with this. If they do? Well, they just learned (maybe) that elections have consequences.
1984 was supposed to be a warning not a friggin instruction manual.
How long after its a thing, until groups have a box you can buy on the internet to get around all of it?
A little software reprogramming, and BINGO.
A little software reprogramming, and BINGO.
On one hand it could reduce accidents and probably save the life of someone’s loved one. On the other hand, when does it end? How sensitive is it, will it create false positives ? I agree with stiffer penalties. and how easy is it to hail and Uber there days ? Easy!
Lucky for me my wife doesn’t drink and doesn’t mind when I do so I have my DD.
Lucky for me my wife doesn’t drink and doesn’t mind when I do so I have my DD.
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Driving on public roads is not a right.
One must get a license which requires testing of knowledge, eyesight, and acknowledgement one will obey regulations and laws.
A vehicle must be registered. Registration requires passage of some minimal safety check for technology required to be registered to operate (Wipers, Emissions, Lights, Brakes, Tires, etc.) If a blowstick is added to the list by legislative action, you voted or didn't, but it's the law.
I may not like it, but I have to abide by the rules or not operate on a public road. I agreed when I got a license and registered my vehicles. Guess what? So did all of you and we are all accountable for it in a court of law.
Don't like it, you don't have to utilize public roads.
It isn't a violation of rights by restricting one from travel because there are many alternative ways to get about.
It's not protected privacy nor unreasonable search and seizure.
One must get a license which requires testing of knowledge, eyesight, and acknowledgement one will obey regulations and laws.
A vehicle must be registered. Registration requires passage of some minimal safety check for technology required to be registered to operate (Wipers, Emissions, Lights, Brakes, Tires, etc.) If a blowstick is added to the list by legislative action, you voted or didn't, but it's the law.
I may not like it, but I have to abide by the rules or not operate on a public road. I agreed when I got a license and registered my vehicles. Guess what? So did all of you and we are all accountable for it in a court of law.
Don't like it, you don't have to utilize public roads.
It isn't a violation of rights by restricting one from travel because there are many alternative ways to get about.
It's not protected privacy nor unreasonable search and seizure.
