Nice pics of the B1...I'll have to make a trip down there...I haven't yet made it to that base
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There are lots of C-141s there. Once the backbone of transport, all were retired about 3 years ago.
Trivia Question:
When if Air Force One not Air Force One?
Trivia Question:
When if Air Force One not Air Force One?
When the President is on the other AF One
very close!
anytime the President is not on board. The aircraft is just its tail number any other time.
There is a story about Nixon taking off in Air Force One but not landing in it. He was in the air when LBJ was sworn in.
anytime the President is not on board. The aircraft is just its tail number any other time.
There is a story about Nixon taking off in Air Force One but not landing in it. He was in the air when LBJ was sworn in.
Interesting photos. Thanks for sharing.
I guess the value of the crafts are still higher than scrap and they have enough space for it. Or the technologies on board are still not yet obsolete that scraping it for metal post security risks. You wouldn't want the Chinese or Russian get a hold of some secret design technique from a 20 year old planes that are still in use today.
Judging by the ever increasing scrap metal price, it would be a good investment to keep them around for a few more years.
I guess the value of the crafts are still higher than scrap and they have enough space for it. Or the technologies on board are still not yet obsolete that scraping it for metal post security risks. You wouldn't want the Chinese or Russian get a hold of some secret design technique from a 20 year old planes that are still in use today.
Judging by the ever increasing scrap metal price, it would be a good investment to keep them around for a few more years.
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it as interesting to see that non-air force one plane painted in the same colors. It was just a dual engine, not a 747, so maybe it is AF2, the VP's plane??
Land is cheap out in the desert. I wonder if thye would bring the A6 back if needs be, or why they retired them... there are a lot there... I asume the F4 is just done and over with - no ned to bring it back, but it is one that was sold all over the place, right???
Land is cheap out in the desert. I wonder if thye would bring the A6 back if needs be, or why they retired them... there are a lot there... I asume the F4 is just done and over with - no ned to bring it back, but it is one that was sold all over the place, right???
Air Force 2 is a 757 if I remember correctly and they are still out in service. Here is a link for photo -> Air force 2
I'd bet the air plane you saw was the 737 which is used by state dept. (They have used up a few)
Here is a photo link of the newer 737 Air force State 737
All others cruise around in the G-III-G-V painted in same colors as AF1. Photo link of one --> Gulfstream G-V
Bill
I'd bet the air plane you saw was the 737 which is used by state dept. (They have used up a few)
Here is a photo link of the newer 737 Air force State 737
All others cruise around in the G-III-G-V painted in same colors as AF1. Photo link of one --> Gulfstream G-V
Bill
The Navy still flys the F4 and the AF uses them as target drones. Many AFs around the world still fly the F4 also.
I've seen the 737s and GVs Bill mentions in person. They move important people around the middle east with those birds.
I just noticed that some of the C-130s have green striped tails. I've worked on some of those and know for a fact they now reside in the boneyard (not due to my maintenance!
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I've seen the 737s and GVs Bill mentions in person. They move important people around the middle east with those birds.
I just noticed that some of the C-130s have green striped tails. I've worked on some of those and know for a fact they now reside in the boneyard (not due to my maintenance!
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Were any of the old SR71 Blackbirds there? That had to be the coolest looking plane ever built. We have one on diplay here in Huntsville at the US Space & Rocket Center.
I think all the SR71 went to be on display around the country. We have one here on display @ Hill AFB in Utah.
Back in the 80's we had adopt a Controller (it was to show controllers how pilots had to "deal" with them and how controllers had to "deal" with pilots)
So I would take them up flying for a few trips over a couple months and I would sit with them in the tower and ATC scope for sector control.
One night around midnight, there was a target that came up on the scope (this was the old system) that when the screen was on 100 miles wide, it was on the edge and then much faster than the other planes. I scrolled over to the data and it was classified so it would have to be military plane above 60,000 ft. It did not show alt or speed but MAN it flew across the screen quickly.
The controller said it was prob a SR71. Once the SR71 went below 60,000 ft the ATC would see its altitude but that was it.
Amazing air craft. Again, designed without CAD computers and such.
Bill
Back in the 80's we had adopt a Controller (it was to show controllers how pilots had to "deal" with them and how controllers had to "deal" with pilots)
So I would take them up flying for a few trips over a couple months and I would sit with them in the tower and ATC scope for sector control.
One night around midnight, there was a target that came up on the scope (this was the old system) that when the screen was on 100 miles wide, it was on the edge and then much faster than the other planes. I scrolled over to the data and it was classified so it would have to be military plane above 60,000 ft. It did not show alt or speed but MAN it flew across the screen quickly.
The controller said it was prob a SR71. Once the SR71 went below 60,000 ft the ATC would see its altitude but that was it.
Amazing air craft. Again, designed without CAD computers and such.
Bill
I was at Edwards AFB when the SR-71 was re-activated then re-deactivated back around '96. P&W worked on the J58 engines in my shop. very different engines than anything else in the shop, although only a mechanic would notice the differences.
Those planes even taxied faster then normal planes. The NASA pilots would wave as they taxied by, the AF pilots usually didn't.
to make this true BITOG, max lubricant temp was 550*F, max fuel inlet temp was 350*f, and max continuous combustor temp was 2000*F
you can't light JP7 fuel on fire with a match, torch, or spark, it takes an explosion of tri-ethyl borane.
Those planes even taxied faster then normal planes. The NASA pilots would wave as they taxied by, the AF pilots usually didn't.
to make this true BITOG, max lubricant temp was 550*F, max fuel inlet temp was 350*f, and max continuous combustor temp was 2000*F
you can't light JP7 fuel on fire with a match, torch, or spark, it takes an explosion of tri-ethyl borane.
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Any XB-70's in the desert ??
Originally Posted By: Papa Bear
Any XB-70's in the desert ??
They only built 2 and one crashed.
The other one is at the National Museum of the United States Air Force at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base near Dayton, Ohio.
bill
Any XB-70's in the desert ??
They only built 2 and one crashed.
The other one is at the National Museum of the United States Air Force at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base near Dayton, Ohio.
bill
Originally Posted By: Papa Bear
Any XB-70's in the desert ??
technically there is still pieces of one out in the desert between Ridgecrest and Barstow, CA, north of Edwards AFB.
We had an XB-70 engine on display out in front of the shop, another oddball engine but more conventional then the J58.
Any XB-70's in the desert ??
technically there is still pieces of one out in the desert between Ridgecrest and Barstow, CA, north of Edwards AFB.
We had an XB-70 engine on display out in front of the shop, another oddball engine but more conventional then the J58.
That's probably why they needed 6 of them ...
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