My brother is in town and is not a car guy , anyway asked me to look over his car etc before he headed out. Im checking things out everything looks good till I see the oil filter and it is clearly the wrong one.It should be a M-090 ,PH16 , L1470,15085 filter , however the one on there is much smaller. I dont even know what filter is on there or how the garage he takes it get changed even put the thing on. Ive thought about changing it out but and kinda worried some moron might have stripped the threads out. My first thought was to have him go back there and have the morons at the shop change take the hit for any damamges and refund him , or should I just change it . What are yall's thoughts
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For safety, he should take it to the shop. I would provide a new filter to ensure everything is fine thou.
A smaller filter in and of itself is not necessarily an issue. Many shops are using filters (group 7, ProMotive) that are combining appplications using the smaller filter application. Don't know if that's what happened here, but if it's not leaking and the car is running fine, likely ok.
If you're worried you can swap it out, but I'd say unless you notice some issue, it's ok until the next OC.
If you're worried you can swap it out, but I'd say unless you notice some issue, it's ok until the next OC.
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A smaller filter in and of itself is not necessarily an issue. Many shops are using filters (group 7, ProMotive) that are combining appplications using the smaller filter application. Don't know if that's what happened here, but if it's not leaking and the car is running fine, likely ok.
If you're worried you can swap it out, but I'd say unless you notice some issue, it's ok until the next OC.
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A smaller filter in and of itself is not necessarily an issue. Many shops are using filters (group 7, ProMotive) that are combining appplications using the smaller filter application. Don't know if that's what happened here, but if it's not leaking and the car is running fine, likely ok.
If you're worried you can swap it out, but I'd say unless you notice some issue, it's ok until the next OC.
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alot of Chryslers use a (PH3614 equivilent) interchangably. of, if space allows, a PH8. (sorry to use the OCOD part nbrs)
Mehh, probably not a big deal. Honda back-spec'd the smaller filters to all their four-cylinders with no real problems. In fact, I used to run the smaller ones well before they made it official.
It is not leaking so Im not terribly concerned, it does look like a ph3614 size filter. Just would have been nice of the shop to have at least asked him , this is why I do my own maintenance so I know it is done correctly. He will be going back to get the right filter and his money back.
He probably won't get his money back if he is going to have them replace the filter with a correct one, since he is still getting a filter. He just should have gotten the right one to begin with.
If it were me, though, I'd replace it myself. Especially if it is a quickie lube type place, you never know what might "break". I'd take a picture of the filter before taking it off, then if there are any problems (stripped threads, etc.), document that as well. I'd doubt there is a problem, but it is a good idea to document things in writing and with pictures just in case.
If it were me, though, I'd replace it myself. Especially if it is a quickie lube type place, you never know what might "break". I'd take a picture of the filter before taking it off, then if there are any problems (stripped threads, etc.), document that as well. I'd doubt there is a problem, but it is a good idea to document things in writing and with pictures just in case.
Too much focus on size here. What about whether the filter meets the tech specs, bypass pressure, flow rates, etc.? Maybe the filter is Ecore or otherwise suspect.
I would suggest an ID of the installed filter and if it doesn't meet OEM specs, get it off of the engine and find a vendor that doesn't just slap on some cheap, inferior generic product.
I would suggest an ID of the installed filter and if it doesn't meet OEM specs, get it off of the engine and find a vendor that doesn't just slap on some cheap, inferior generic product.
Nah. Bypass spec unlikely to be an issue. Using the 3614 or Puro 10241 instead of L14670 spec sounds a reasonable explanation.
As for going to get his money back, as explained above, the 3614/10241 may be what the shop/quick lube uses, and is supplied with, for all such 300M applications. That being the case, it's unlikely that the shop will return his money, or put another filter on without charging extra.
This would be similar to using the shorter 14612 for the 14610 in Hondas and Altimas. Some shops are doing this now as the filter supplier on makes the 14612. And, as this thread shows even Chrysler uses two different length MO-090 filters depending on manufacturer.
But it is true, if one wants the job done specific way, with no surprises, best to diy.
As for going to get his money back, as explained above, the 3614/10241 may be what the shop/quick lube uses, and is supplied with, for all such 300M applications. That being the case, it's unlikely that the shop will return his money, or put another filter on without charging extra.
This would be similar to using the shorter 14612 for the 14610 in Hondas and Altimas. Some shops are doing this now as the filter supplier on makes the 14612. And, as this thread shows even Chrysler uses two different length MO-090 filters depending on manufacturer.
But it is true, if one wants the job done specific way, with no surprises, best to diy.
If you can read the filter name and number, Google it and see if the threads and rubber seal match the OEM filter or whatever is rated for this car.
The Mopar MO-090 is what I use, it is a wide filter. The gasket diameter though is much smaller than the can, and the thread is 3/4-16. A filter like a Motorcraft 400s has about the same gasket diameter but it is next to the can edge, and the can is much thinner. Mobil 1 filters and others for the Chrysler have the fat can as well. So it probably is OK, they used a thin can which fits on fine, it looks like, but he should use the correct one the next time. I find using the correct Mopar filter is the easiest choice for it's $5.49 price, and it is a nice filter.
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