No oil in filter after removal - '99 Camry (5S-FE 2.2L)

[ZeeOSix]

How high does the filter sit relative to the rest of the engine? On my Subaru, the entire oiling system sits below the filter due to the boxer engine design. On the Tacoma, there might still be a good amount of volume in the oil passages to the head and timing system that are higher than the filter and where air pockets might form instead. Or maybe there just isn't as much leakage.

The filter on my Tacoma sits above the heads, so it's the highest point in the oiling system. The label to the left of the filter is the front of the driver's side valve cover.

 

[Fair enough]

If the oil light goes off right away and runs fine, all ok. Try a small Toyota 90915-yzzn1 filter. The adbv is silicone, a good amount of media is inside.

 

[92saturnsl2]

How high does the filter sit relative to the rest of the engine? On my Subaru, the entire oiling system sits below the filter due to the boxer engine design. On the Tacoma, there might still be a good amount of volume in the oil passages to the head and timing system that are higher than the filter and where air pockets might form instead. Or maybe there just isn't as much leakage.

Since I made the post a couple of weeks ago about the oil light testing with different filters on my Subaru, I've taken a closer look at some studies that measure oil pressure rise over time in different parts of an oiling system on a cold start. It seems typical that dozens of engine revolutions are required to pressurize the furthest parts of an oiling system, equivalent to hundreds of ml of oil needing to be pumped. So there must be a good amount of drainage that normally occurs.

I'd say filter location is a good 2/3 the way up the block, a good bit higher than the oil pump.

Overnight, the level of the oil went up from bottom hash mark to about 1/3 the way up to the full mark. Some of that has to be oil draining to the pan from up top (through drain passages), but I imagine something has to be coming from the filter. It seems to me there is nothing stopping the outlet side of the filter from draining back upon engine shutdown. Quirk in the engine design I suppose.

 

[wpod]

I had an 88 4 cyl Camry and the filter always drained out over night, look at there the filter is located it is above the crankshaft. lots of holes for the oil to drain out. My 2015 Ford F150 with the 2.7 engine has a cartridge filter on the top of the engine and it is empty when ever I change the oil.

 

[camrydriver111]

In my experience on Toyotas once you start unscrewing the filter it will leak on the block so there is oil left in it.

I never changed the oil cold though.

Since it's at a 45 degree angle, it's possible for the oil from the top of the filter to leak out. However, there should be some remaining in the lower portion.

Toyota engines tend to be simple. I doubt there is something in the block that could stop flow.

 

[lbhsbz]

I never saw an empty filter on a 5S-FE when I was at the dealer years ago...actually the first time was using a Pentius filter on my 2003 4 runner. I cut that open and a did a little study a while back. The ADBV was rubber and not very soft, actually had a bit of a memory. I could pinch it and it would take a good 30 or so seconds to recover to it's original shape. Went back to Denso or OE filters after that.

 

[Fair enough]

The direct mount on the cast iron is a very good mount for an oil filter. No o rings or adapters. Thinking back, I remember on a few cars leaving it drain overnight resulted in a clean oil filter removal. I wonder if it seeps by the threads, doesn’t seem like it would but with some hours a leak adds up. A leak through the threads is a direct path to the inlet hole in the bottom of the mount, can see the hole in the picture. I would try the Toyota N1 but already said that.

 

[Yah-Tah-Hey]

This.
That filter has never had oil flowing through it.

Exactly what I thought when I saw that filter.