I had several trips in first and business, and it is always nice, especially whiskey.
737 max... what now?
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I was on a first class flight with maybe a a dozen first class seats and only 4 first class passengers. The meal was better than most, but they had, Champagne (Krug or Dom Perignon), and I don't remember the liquor, although I'm sure they had XO Cognac and a bunch of single malts. That was on an MD-11 back in the 90s.
You must be talking about what I call slouch seats. They don’t recline, the seat bottom slides forward thus giving the illusion of reclining.
Yes they are very uncomfortable. I’ve had a few flights on 10-15 hours with those seats. My back reminded me about it for a few days afterwards.
I think they were reclining, Recaro, but they were so thin, so hard, ridiculous.
From the FAA. “Boeing recommends operators of some 737 MAX airplanes temporarily remove them from service to address a potential electrical issue.”
Just think, Boeing could have been making first deliveries on an cutting edge, all-composite, modern narrowbody around now if they committed to it back in 2011. Yet they’re still chasing down issues on a barely-competitive 57 year old design that has destroyed their image, possibly for decades.
Southwest Airlines, American ground dozens of Boeing 737 Max jets over wiring issue
Southwest Airlines and American Airlines grounded dozens of their Boeing 737 Max jets after the airplane manufacturer warned of electrical issues on some...
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Just think, Boeing could have been making first deliveries on an cutting edge, all-composite, modern narrowbody around now if they committed to it back in 2011. Yet they’re still chasing down issues on a barely-competitive 57 year old design that has destroyed their image, possibly for decades.
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From what I read this looks like an assembly error rather than a design defect. That could have happened regardless of whether it was a new design or old.
Absolutely it is a design error. The problem started with the fact they tried to limit the number of hours required for retraining, having only one pitot tube input etc.
The real problem is leadership and the motives behind such a move.
Different discussion on which Kschachn was commenting.
Latest grounding is for an electric fault.
The grounding point for the standby power bus was painted over during manufacture.
That’s a production error. Plain and simple.
Quick inspection, and cleaning off the paint so that the power has a good ground, and the airplane is good to go.
Ah, I see. OK, yeah, that makes sense.
OK, I see what you saying, Astro14 pointed.
This is pickle on par with that engine some crew had to shut down as soon as MAX was reapproved. When all eyes are on you, anything is news, regardless of how normal that news is. If it is negative, it is news. There is no positive "news."
Airplane sandpaper is expensive.
Airplane mechanic labor is expensive.
But not as expensive as assembly worker error, it would seem...
But not as expensive as assembly worker error, it would seem...
It’s not an assembly worker error. They wouldn’t make the exact same error on 106 airplanes. They were following a new design change the engineers came up with in early 2019.
“This issue affects certain .... airplanes manufactured after design changes were implemented in early 2019”
I flew on a 737 Max a few weeks ago and it is a nice modern aircraft but the passenger seat / space is more cramped than ever. I didn't think it was possible to make them any smaller, but of course they found a way. Good grief.
That’s the choice of the airline in question. Seat design. Seat pitch. Etc…
Boeing provides the shell.
Economy/economy plus/first class configuration are all chosen by the customer.
Boeing's chief technical pilot for the 737 MAX just got indicted for fraud.
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Former Boeing pilot indicted on fraud charges related to 737 MAX crashes that killed 346
The indictment against Mark Forkner is the only criminal charge so far to come from a Department of Justice investigation into two deadly 737 MAX crashes. The indictment alleges Forkner deceived the FAA and Boeing customers.
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Former Boeing 737 MAX Chief Technical Pilot Indicted for Fraud
That's based on a 737-700 with some -800 parts. It does not have the MAX engines or MCAS system.
That was just an example of what could be done with the interior of a 737. But there were BBJ orders based on the 737 MAX.
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