Every aircraft's record is excellent before the first one crashes
737 max... what now?
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While not the Max ,, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia...s6H88GP8oILX-4iam2sJqSro5yo3q3FZmvSBkxXzMSgbM
But 26 years old. Still has dials everywhere. The maintenance history is going to be looked at.
Exactly. Probably hasn't had required checks in ??years.
Not sure about that. However, a lot of these small airlines don't have their own maintenance crew and farm it out via contract.
Indonesia is not known for top notch maintenance standards and pilot training. That is also a very difficult region to fly in. Having been in that area and flown around I can tell you that the airports and runways can be tricky to go in and out of. Add to that the weather which is always unstable, and toss in the training and maintenance on top of that is a recipe for accidents. Even the top legacy carriers like Garuda are dealing with this. This particular airline I haven’t heard of before but the LCCs in that region are ones I try to avoid at all costs.
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It is wild west of regulations.
Institutions never caught up with development.
Air Canada and WestJet are starting up Halifax - London Trans Atlantic flights on the 737 MAX 8 soon. About 6 hrs. gate-to-gate to London and about 7 hrs. back.
I feel bad for the pilots. The 737 cockpit is a horrible place to be for that long.
https://simpleflying.com/westjet-7-hour-max-flights/amp/
I feel bad for the pilots. The 737 cockpit is a horrible place to be for that long.
https://simpleflying.com/westjet-7-hour-max-flights/amp/
I feel even worse for the passengers.
Hi Pim Tac.
'Indonesia is not known for top notch maintenance standards and pilot training'.
Would any Airline like this be allowed to fly in and out of such places as Europe or US? As a layman i would like to think that any Aircraft i get on in the UK has been well mantained and has a competent crew. Am i being naive?
In the article linked above is this....
"Indonesia, though, has a relatively poor record on aviation safety. For more than a decade carriers from the region were banned from flying into the EU. Until recently, the perception had been that standards were improving, and in 2018 all Indonesian airlines were removed from the EU's blacklist."
This. Although flying on Delta from the US to Heathrow wasn't bad in the extended legroom section of whatever Delta calls theirs now, it paled in comparison to Virgin Atlantic's premium economy on the A340. That was legit af. I do not want to imagine flying across the pond in regular economy as a 6'2 flyer.
The 340 is or was a proper wide body. We also have a lot of west coast flights to Hawaii on 737s.
It depends on the airline and the aircraft.
The wife and I have had flights/hotels booked twice now for Hawaii for our honeymoon that have had to be canceled due to Covid. I am not looking forward to economy on a 737 for a 7hr flight. /grumpy
I’m curious if they’ll have more legroom/lower capacity planes for these routes?
Although, my last 2 Trans Atlantic flights were coach on a LOT Polish 787 and a Lufthansa A340 and I doubt the seats/legroom were anything better than most Legacy US domestic narrow bodies. Not enough to really notice if they were.
Although, my last 2 Trans Atlantic flights were coach on a LOT Polish 787 and a Lufthansa A340 and I doubt the seats/legroom were anything better than most Legacy US domestic narrow bodies. Not enough to really notice if they were.
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I flew in 2018 on Lufthansa from FRA to DTW on 747 and new seats are absolutely abysmal. So much, that I actually liked AA flight to CDG from CLT in 2019 much better than LH, and AA and UAL are dead last on my list (sorry Astro).
I made one trip to Asia where it was outbound on a 777-300 and return on a 747-400. I much preferred the 777 for the amenities. The 747-400 still had movies shown on a CRT popping down from above, while the 777 had in-flight entertainment on personal flatscreens. I don't think the 747 was any better in coach than with a 737, but I was sitting in an exit row. I've been on a 747-400 before in a bulkhead row, and it wasn't that great. I mentioned that to a flight attendant, and he said he'd rather be on a 747 because he thought that four engines were better than two in case of engine problems.
I've flown business class before and first class once. Nothing on one of the newer type with those cubbies but a large traditional airline seat. That's pretty nice. Once I got moved to business class because I arrived at my assigned seat and it didn't exist because there was a luggage storage bin where it was supposed to be. Coach was also completely full. Apparently the only plane in their fleet with this bin, but it wasn't blocked out. While it didn't recline, the Big Front Seat on Spirit wasn't bad for an extra $10.
Seat Guru gives info on seats that comes in handy. I see that Lufthansa has a 31 inch pitch ( leg room) on their 748 in economy. For comparison the airline I use, All Nippon has 34 inches on their 787-9 which is standard on the route I fly the most.
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It was not pitch. Itw as new design (744). Much thinner, seriously uncomfortable. I generally have an issue with anything in economy, but this was bad on back. My wife is 5ft and she also had back issues.
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