65% of Toyota Buyers Buy Another One
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http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/65-of-toyota-and-lexus-buyers-buy-another-one/
I'm glad I wasn't drinking coffee when I read this comment.
"Driving a Toyota is like eating boiled chicken and steamed vegetables. Eat them long enough, and you no longer desire flavor."
I've owned a couple of Toyotas and may own one again, but that was funny.
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/65-of-toyota-and-lexus-buyers-buy-another-one/
I'm glad I wasn't drinking coffee when I read this comment.
"Driving a Toyota is like eating boiled chicken and steamed vegetables. Eat them long enough, and you no longer desire flavor."
I've owned a couple of Toyotas and may own one again, but that was funny.
How many people buy new cars ?
Do their decision making processes appear more like an engineering assessment of their proposed purchase, or delve into the R/S/P area ?
Only time I ever see a critical assessment of a new purchase is when they have been enticed to change brands...and that's not critical.
Do their decision making processes appear more like an engineering assessment of their proposed purchase, or delve into the R/S/P area ?
Only time I ever see a critical assessment of a new purchase is when they have been enticed to change brands...and that's not critical.
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How many people buy new cars ?
Just about anyone who qualifies to buy one ..at least until they reach some level of enlightenment.
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Do their decision making processes appear more like an engineering assessment of their proposed purchase, or delve into the R/S/P area ?
I think it's more along the lines of E/S/P (ego, sex, personality/self image - however real or imaginary). Even the minivan purchase has an "S" component to it on some tertiary level. I don't see much of the "P" component. I think NASCAR has more influence.
How many people buy new cars ?
Just about anyone who qualifies to buy one ..at least until they reach some level of enlightenment.
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Do their decision making processes appear more like an engineering assessment of their proposed purchase, or delve into the R/S/P area ?
I think it's more along the lines of E/S/P (ego, sex, personality/self image - however real or imaginary). Even the minivan purchase has an "S" component to it on some tertiary level. I don't see much of the "P" component. I think NASCAR has more influence.
Ah well, both my parents are in the other 35%
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ad got a great deal on a used 1997 Lexus ES300 in 2000, and owned that car until 2006, when he bought a new 2007 Pontiac G6. A Toyota Camry cost several thousand dollars more, and didn't even has as good a ride quality.
Mom bought a 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee after owning a 2002 Solara for a while. She wanted to go back to an SUV after she crashed one. The Jeep had a low price for such a large vehicle. Toyota charged thousands of dollars more for the SUV that is most similar to the Jeep Grand Cherokee. Even that retro-styled 2 door SUV was thousands of dollars more, and mom was one of the few people that liked the look of it.
Also interesting is that the G6 is that dad hasn't bought an American car since 1977. Mom hasn't bought one American car since 1985. Neither mom, nor dad have been disappointed with their decisions.
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ad got a great deal on a used 1997 Lexus ES300 in 2000, and owned that car until 2006, when he bought a new 2007 Pontiac G6. A Toyota Camry cost several thousand dollars more, and didn't even has as good a ride quality.
Mom bought a 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee after owning a 2002 Solara for a while. She wanted to go back to an SUV after she crashed one. The Jeep had a low price for such a large vehicle. Toyota charged thousands of dollars more for the SUV that is most similar to the Jeep Grand Cherokee. Even that retro-styled 2 door SUV was thousands of dollars more, and mom was one of the few people that liked the look of it.
Also interesting is that the G6 is that dad hasn't bought an American car since 1977. Mom hasn't bought one American car since 1985. Neither mom, nor dad have been disappointed with their decisions.
In my family, 100% of GM owners buy another one.
However, that doesn't mean that we're the sharpest knives in the drawer for doing so...
Right now, the only thing I'd trade my Silverado on would be another Silverado or a Sierra. However, since it is nearly paid off, it will be sitting in my garage at least until the warranty runs out.a
However, that doesn't mean that we're the sharpest knives in the drawer for doing so...
Right now, the only thing I'd trade my Silverado on would be another Silverado or a Sierra. However, since it is nearly paid off, it will be sitting in my garage at least until the warranty runs out.a
Im on my first Toyota and so far its been a great truck. I would buy again although i wouldnt buy the first modle year...i usually wait till the bugs are worked out...that goes for any make i guess.
Interesting article.
My dad tends to buy anything once, but he buys Fords consistently. Whether there have been Fiats, Hondas, Jeeps, whatever else in the driveway, they have always shared space with at least one Ford for the last 30 years or so. My dad is not particularly brand loyal, but he always ends up with a Ford since he hasn't really been burned by one (except a 1978 Mercury Zephyr). The Ford dealer is usually the first place he goes to when it is time to trade in. My mom leaves the buying up to my dad, but she is brand loyal to Ford and does push my dad towards them.
I would buy something other than a Ford, but I just prefer vehicles based on the Ranger/Explorer platform, so I keep buying them. I like the interiors, I like the drivetrains, I like the styling, etc... so I just don't have any incentive to change. I might get a full size Ford next, but who knows. It will be used since I don't really like new Fords. I did consider buying a brand new 2007 Ranger, but I just didn't see the point since it was the same as the 2001 Ranger I already had. There is no way I would buy an Explorer built after 2001. I guess maybe I am brand loyal to Ford, but only if you are talking 2001 or older ones, lol. I have no preference with new cars - I don't really like any of them enough to buy one.
My dad tends to buy anything once, but he buys Fords consistently. Whether there have been Fiats, Hondas, Jeeps, whatever else in the driveway, they have always shared space with at least one Ford for the last 30 years or so. My dad is not particularly brand loyal, but he always ends up with a Ford since he hasn't really been burned by one (except a 1978 Mercury Zephyr). The Ford dealer is usually the first place he goes to when it is time to trade in. My mom leaves the buying up to my dad, but she is brand loyal to Ford and does push my dad towards them.
I would buy something other than a Ford, but I just prefer vehicles based on the Ranger/Explorer platform, so I keep buying them. I like the interiors, I like the drivetrains, I like the styling, etc... so I just don't have any incentive to change. I might get a full size Ford next, but who knows. It will be used since I don't really like new Fords. I did consider buying a brand new 2007 Ranger, but I just didn't see the point since it was the same as the 2001 Ranger I already had. There is no way I would buy an Explorer built after 2001. I guess maybe I am brand loyal to Ford, but only if you are talking 2001 or older ones, lol. I have no preference with new cars - I don't really like any of them enough to buy one.
All of the Toyota's that I have owned have been very reliable and have served me well for hundreds of thousand of miles with very little to complain about. BUT! They are boaring and uninspiring to drive with no connection between driver and machine. I don't continue to buy Toyota's, one after another. I often give myself a break and get something engauging to drive but then I go back to the Toyota store for some more boardome.
We've had a Corolla and a Vibe (Matrix). Reliable as can be, but it's hard to stay awake driving, they're so boring. Maybe a manual tranny...
I'd consider the new Vibe coming out, it's larger but more fuel thirsty.
I'd consider the new Vibe coming out, it's larger but more fuel thirsty.
I've had several Toyotas, and our garage presently contains an 04 Prius and an 07 Avalon. I'd buy another without hesitation. On the other hand, I'd absolutely consider any number of competitors the next time buying time comes around.
The only thing i complain about is that the room sucks. At least the newer Tacomas and more so the new Tundra took care in that catagory.
Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
I did consider buying a brand new 2007 Ranger, but I just didn't see the point since it was the same as the 2001 Ranger I already had. There is no way I would buy an Explorer built after 2001....
And people wonder what is wrong with Ford...
I did consider buying a brand new 2007 Ranger, but I just didn't see the point since it was the same as the 2001 Ranger I already had. There is no way I would buy an Explorer built after 2001....
And people wonder what is wrong with Ford...
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Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
I did consider buying a brand new 2007 Ranger, but I just didn't see the point since it was the same as the 2001 Ranger I already had. There is no way I would buy an Explorer built after 2001....
And people wonder what is wrong with Ford...
The funny thing is i still say the same thing. My work has mainly Ford Rangers and a F250 with a V10. The V10 has over 200K and gets beat on everyday and the Rangers never see highway speeds since they only are used for putting around the airport. I know for sure the maintence sucks on these trucks but they still keep on ticking.
Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
I did consider buying a brand new 2007 Ranger, but I just didn't see the point since it was the same as the 2001 Ranger I already had. There is no way I would buy an Explorer built after 2001....
And people wonder what is wrong with Ford...
The funny thing is i still say the same thing. My work has mainly Ford Rangers and a F250 with a V10. The V10 has over 200K and gets beat on everyday and the Rangers never see highway speeds since they only are used for putting around the airport. I know for sure the maintence sucks on these trucks but they still keep on ticking.
Originally Posted By: ekpolk
I've had several Toyotas, and our garage presently contains an 04 Prius and an 07 Avalon. I'd buy another without hesitation. On the other hand, I'd absolutely consider any number of competitors the next time buying time comes around.
They aren't for everybody. I have a problem with their ergonomics. If I put the seat where I'm comfortable (I'm 6'1") the steering wheel is too far away. I think they were designed for shorter people (prominent in the nation where they were designed). I feel the same way about Nissan, and Honda. They need telescopic wheels. All three are quality products, but they do have their shortcomings. The Toyota salesman said telescoping columns were in the works.
I've had several Toyotas, and our garage presently contains an 04 Prius and an 07 Avalon. I'd buy another without hesitation. On the other hand, I'd absolutely consider any number of competitors the next time buying time comes around.
They aren't for everybody. I have a problem with their ergonomics. If I put the seat where I'm comfortable (I'm 6'1") the steering wheel is too far away. I think they were designed for shorter people (prominent in the nation where they were designed). I feel the same way about Nissan, and Honda. They need telescopic wheels. All three are quality products, but they do have their shortcomings. The Toyota salesman said telescoping columns were in the works.
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Originally Posted By: ekpolk
I've had several Toyotas, and our garage presently contains an 04 Prius and an 07 Avalon. I'd buy another without hesitation. On the other hand, I'd absolutely consider any number of competitors the next time buying time comes around.
They aren't for everybody. I have a problem with their ergonomics. If I put the seat where I'm comfortable (I'm 6'1") the steering wheel is too far away. I think they were designed for shorter people (prominent in the nation where they were designed). I feel the same way about Nissan, and Honda. They need telescopic wheels. All three are quality products, but they do have their shortcomings. The Toyota salesman said telescoping columns were in the works.
The Camry and Avalon both have the tilt and telescope column, right now...
Originally Posted By: ekpolk
I've had several Toyotas, and our garage presently contains an 04 Prius and an 07 Avalon. I'd buy another without hesitation. On the other hand, I'd absolutely consider any number of competitors the next time buying time comes around.
They aren't for everybody. I have a problem with their ergonomics. If I put the seat where I'm comfortable (I'm 6'1") the steering wheel is too far away. I think they were designed for shorter people (prominent in the nation where they were designed). I feel the same way about Nissan, and Honda. They need telescopic wheels. All three are quality products, but they do have their shortcomings. The Toyota salesman said telescoping columns were in the works.
The Camry and Avalon both have the tilt and telescope column, right now...
Originally Posted By: Gillsy
Originally Posted By: ekpolk
I've had several Toyotas, and our garage presently contains an 04 Prius and an 07 Avalon. I'd buy another without hesitation. On the other hand, I'd absolutely consider any number of competitors the next time buying time comes around.
They aren't for everybody. I have a problem with their ergonomics. If I put the seat where I'm comfortable (I'm 6'1") the steering wheel is too far away. I think they were designed for shorter people (prominent in the nation where they were designed). I feel the same way about Nissan, and Honda. They need telescopic wheels. All three are quality products, but they do have their shortcomings. The Toyota salesman said telescoping columns were in the works.
LOL, my mom has a Camry and she's a short Chinese lady and sits practically with her chest about a foot in front of the steering wheel in order to reach the pedals and see the road. Kind of scary to think about the airbag if G-od forbid she ever gets in an accident.
I find that the ergonomics in the Camry and Civic that we have are perfect. I think if we are ever in the market for a car again (hopefully not for a long long time) we would consider Toyota again. Although there are some minor things where I'm not exactly impressed with the quality. Like the rear speaker covers sort of just cracked and I poked them with a finger and they just crumbled like bread crumbs, but like I said those are minor things. Otherwise it is one of the most comfortable cars I've ridden in.
Originally Posted By: ekpolk
I've had several Toyotas, and our garage presently contains an 04 Prius and an 07 Avalon. I'd buy another without hesitation. On the other hand, I'd absolutely consider any number of competitors the next time buying time comes around.
They aren't for everybody. I have a problem with their ergonomics. If I put the seat where I'm comfortable (I'm 6'1") the steering wheel is too far away. I think they were designed for shorter people (prominent in the nation where they were designed). I feel the same way about Nissan, and Honda. They need telescopic wheels. All three are quality products, but they do have their shortcomings. The Toyota salesman said telescoping columns were in the works.
LOL, my mom has a Camry and she's a short Chinese lady and sits practically with her chest about a foot in front of the steering wheel in order to reach the pedals and see the road. Kind of scary to think about the airbag if G-od forbid she ever gets in an accident.
I find that the ergonomics in the Camry and Civic that we have are perfect. I think if we are ever in the market for a car again (hopefully not for a long long time) we would consider Toyota again. Although there are some minor things where I'm not exactly impressed with the quality. Like the rear speaker covers sort of just cracked and I poked them with a finger and they just crumbled like bread crumbs, but like I said those are minor things. Otherwise it is one of the most comfortable cars I've ridden in.
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You've got to also figure that you can be a mutant. I'm 6'1" ..but have something like a 30"+/- inseam. So I "sit" like a 6'4" person ..but reach like a 5'9" person. I'm often in conflict with most seating/wheel combinations. BMW was good. VW was just enough. Peugeot, with its Sistine Chapel ceiling and seats that lowered as they were moved back worked very well. I always chuckled when I saw some yuppie real estate lady in her 5 series. Seat reclined and reaching WAY out to grasp the steering wheel. My jeeps work ..but it's more like what I imagine a cockpit of a two seater attack aircraft is like. You're kinda "contained" if you're a larger person (even a lighter larger person). Tilt wheel allows taller people to see the speedometer at the critical 50-70mph span.
Perhaps in the future, genetic engineering can make humans more conforming in size. One size may then fit all. Maybe then we could all look like that girl that they use on the Ford commercials that make the more compact models look so spacious. She must be 4'11" and all of 90lb.
Perhaps in the future, genetic engineering can make humans more conforming in size. One size may then fit all. Maybe then we could all look like that girl that they use on the Ford commercials that make the more compact models look so spacious. She must be 4'11" and all of 90lb.
I agree with Char baby, I had a Toyota Corola as a rental once and they really dont have a personality. They are a bland, service type auto, with a universal feeling. They feel like tool rather then a car. Recently I rented a Ford Fusion and it had that same persona, so I feel that American companies are now trying to copy the Japanese, which is a shame because I think its the American flare that sells any American cars. A Chevy Caviler felt like a sportscar compared to that Corolla. When we purchase a car, my wife and I go as couple, I want something safe to protect her in a crash so I dont have to raise the kids by myself, she wants something that will do the quarter mile in less than 13 seconds, Toyotas wouldnt go over with her. Hence when we went to look at Chevy Lumina's and come home with a Olds Intrigue and when we went to look at Taurus's and come home with a Lincoln. Women can do that, I guess.
I guess thats what people who buy Toyotas want. Something predictable and reliable. Otherwise they'd probably get something like a Jetta instead of a Corolla.
And I don't think no matter how sporty a Cavalier is that it won't make up for its interior that shouts cheap.
And I don't think no matter how sporty a Cavalier is that it won't make up for its interior that shouts cheap.
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