The price for the Toyota bZ4X is falling sharply at the dealer auctions.

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I'm starting to see a healthy number of the BZ's becoming buybacks and sent to the wholesale dealer auctions due to the 12 volt battery issues during its earlier run.

Honestly the price is quite tempting, especially if you qualify for the EV tax credit. You can get a '23 model with super low miles for thousands less than average wholesale, and about $15,000 less than brand new, since it's increasingly unpopular and harder for Toyota dealers to retail these units.

The BZ's are usually under $22,000 wholesale. Even the Limited models are now less than $25,000 before the $4,000 tax credit. The BZ and Nissan Ariya have become ridiculously cheap and, if we were a two car family with a ton of local driving (with one being gas), I would be tempted to take either one of these two as a daily driver.

I buy a lot of EVs. Mostly Bolts and LEAFs. But Toyota has a ridiculously strong warranty overseas for these vehicles, 10 years and 600,000 miles for the battery. That along with Toyota's longevity estimates would frankly pull me towards this model. Especially compared to an entry level Toyota RAV4 which is slightly more expensive and far less equipped at this price point.

Yesterday I tried to buy a 2023 Limited model with only 2700 miles. I was the high bidder at $21,800 but Toyota no-saled it. The wholesale book value is $25,300.

All I can say is, if you want to get a great deal in the car market you have to hit 'em where they ain't. And right now non-Tesla EVs are the rolling embodiment of where they ain't.
 
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EV resale is poor at best. Tesla , VW ID4 , this ugly thing and Mustang etc.

It makes it appealing if fits your use case . For me I have free Level 2 charging at work and commute 100 miles round trip x 10 days/month.
 
I'm starting to see a healthy number of the BZ's becoming buybacks and sent to the wholesale dealer auctions due to the 12 volt battery issues during its earlier run.

Honestly the price is quite tempting, especially if you qualify for the EV tax credit. You can get a '23 model with super low miles for thousands less than average wholesale, and about $15,000 less than brand new, since it's increasingly unpopular and harder for Toyota dealers to retail these units.

The BZ's are usually under $22,000 wholesale. Even the Limited models are now less than $25,000 before the $4,000 tax credit. The BZ and Nissan Ariya have become ridiculously cheap and, if we were a two car family with a ton of local driving (with one being gas), I would be tempted to take either one of these two as a daily driver.

I buy a lot of EVs. Mostly Bolts and LEAFs. But Toyota has a ridiculously strong warranty overseas for these vehicles, 10 years and 600,000 miles for the battery. That along with Toyota's longevity estimates would frankly pull me towards this model. Especially compared to an entry level Toyota RAV4 which is slightly more expensive and far less equipped at this price point.

Yesterday I tried to buy a 2023 Limited model with only 2700 miles. I was the high bidder at $21,800 but Toyota no-saled it. The wholesale book value is $25,300.

All I can say is, if you want to get a great deal in the car market you have to hit 'em where they ain't. And right now non-Tesla EVs are the rolling embodiment of where they ain't.
Cybertruck owners are seeing this as well as dealerships. A number of Cybertrucks owners with 3-5k miles and 6 months old that were 120k new are being offered 65-75k on trade which is crazy depreciation. August to September 2024 Cybertrucks lost 20k at auction. People are treating ev's like cellphones. A slightly older model can be less than half of a brand new one.
 
The problem with BZ4X/Solterra and the Nissan Ariya is they might be decent cars but they're HORRIBLE EVs. Poor DC fast charging performance and lousy route planning/mapping software, which is a problem if you're a new EV owner and trying to take a road trip or can't charge at home.

And ultimately I don't think they are any more reliable than other EVs. I know Toyota has a history of reliability but I'm not sure how well this translates to an EV.
 
The problem with BZ4X/Solterra and the Nissan Ariya is they might be decent cars but they're HORRIBLE EVs. Poor DC fast charging performance and lousy route planning/mapping software, which is a problem if you're a new EV owner and trying to take a road trip or can't charge at home.

And ultimately I don't think they are any more reliable than other EVs. I know Toyota has a history of reliability but I'm not sure how well this translates to an EV.

I suspect that Toyota has engineered the battery and charging system very conservatively to ensure long life. As a result charging is slower, acceleration and range are modest. But time will tell.

For example, on my Prius Prime the battery capacity is 13.6 kWh but only 10.5 kWh are used for EV operation. Therefore the battery is never fully charged or discharged in order to extend the life.
 
The problem with BZ4X/Solterra and the Nissan Ariya is they might be decent cars but they're HORRIBLE EVs. Poor DC fast charging performance and lousy route planning/mapping software, which is a problem if you're a new EV owner and trying to take a road trip or can't charge at home.

And ultimately I don't think they are any more reliable than other EVs. I know Toyota has a history of reliability but I'm not sure how well this translates to an EV.
To me the route planning/charging software should left to apps running in CarPlay or Android mirror. It should have integration to car . My guess is maybe that Slate truck might have a decent pass at software for phone/tablet.

Built in software dates so fast.
 
The problem with BZ4X/Solterra and the Nissan Ariya is they might be decent cars but they're HORRIBLE EVs. Poor DC fast charging performance and lousy route planning/mapping software, which is a problem if you're a new EV owner and trying to take a road trip or can't charge at home.

And ultimately I don't think they are any more reliable than other EVs. I know Toyota has a history of reliability but I'm not sure how well this translates to an EV.
Me Lexus dealership told me the same thing as we looked at their RZ, or whatever they call it.
I'm sure Toyota will do better with their next round of EVs.
 
I'm starting to see a healthy number of the BZ's becoming buybacks and sent to the wholesale dealer auctions due to the 12 volt battery issues during its earlier run.

Honestly the price is quite tempting, especially if you qualify for the EV tax credit. You can get a '23 model with super low miles for thousands less than average wholesale, and about $15,000 less than brand new, since it's increasingly unpopular and harder for Toyota dealers to retail these units.

The BZ's are usually under $22,000 wholesale. Even the Limited models are now less than $25,000 before the $4,000 tax credit. The BZ and Nissan Ariya have become ridiculously cheap and, if we were a two car family with a ton of local driving (with one being gas), I would be tempted to take either one of these two as a daily driver.

I buy a lot of EVs. Mostly Bolts and LEAFs. But Toyota has a ridiculously strong warranty overseas for these vehicles, 10 years and 600,000 miles for the battery. That along with Toyota's longevity estimates would frankly pull me towards this model. Especially compared to an entry level Toyota RAV4 which is slightly more expensive and far less equipped at this price point.

Yesterday I tried to buy a 2023 Limited model with only 2700 miles. I was the high bidder at $21,800 but Toyota no-saled it. The wholesale book value is $25,300.

All I can say is, if you want to get a great deal in the car market you have to hit 'em where they ain't. And right now non-Tesla EVs are the rolling embodiment of where they ain't.


Love the last two sentences. Thank you, this might help me with finding a new car for my mom.
 
Love the last two sentences. Thank you, this might help me with finding a new car for my mom.
I operate 48 hours and a used car on Facebook. So if you're looking for a late model vehicle, I can pretty much get it delivered straight from the auction to your door. Feel free to PM me when you're ready to buy a vehicle. All the best!
 
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