How long has this topic been debated for? 5 years. All of you 20 WT haters use whatever you feel you need to. But keep in mind 20 years ago these 30WT oils would not even meet spec for 20 WT. Now people are using the 30 WT oil in 20 old engine and they are not blowing up. How many cars using the newest gen 20 WT's blowing up? I have an 5.7 V8 engine that pushes 345HP and 380LBS of torque and drive it likes its stolen. No problems. You people need to catch up on the times and learn something. There is some applications I will not use a 20WT oil. But in a 21 century engine that specs a 20WT I will not have an problem using it in.