49 North Lubricants

[tuckman]

Has anybody used 49 North oils before?
I found a 0W-30 they have that has a cold pour point of -59C!

QUALITIES
49 North® 100% Full Synthetic Arctic Grade Engine Oils provide outstanding thermal and oxidative stability ensuring the long-term
integrity of the product even after repeated cold starts and prolonged exposure to extremely high engine operating temperatures.
The wax free synthetic stocks with extremely low pour points ensures the rapid flow of oil throughout the engine after cold start up
providing the instant protection required during the period that the engine is most vulnerable to wear. The high TBN (Total Base Number)
of 12.5 reduces engine deposits, most notably in critical piston ring grooves, and maintains power in low emission engines.

TYPICAL PROPERTIES
SAE Viscosity Grade 0W-30
Product Code 1403
Density kg/m3 (ASTM D- 4052) 850
Viscosity (ASTM D-445):
cSt @ 400 C 63.9
cSt @ 1000 C 11.1
Viscosity Index (ASTM D-2270) 178
CCS Viscosity, P (D-5293) @ -350 C 59
MRV LPT, C @ 60,000 cP (ASTM D-4684) -46
MRV Viscosity, P (ASTM D-4684) @ -400 C 226
MRV Viscosity, P (ASTM D-4684) @ -350 C 112
Pour Point (ASTM D-97), 0C -59
Flash Point (ASTM D-92), 0C 226
Colour (ASTM D-1500) 3.0
Sulfated Ash (ASTM D-874) 1.49
Total Base Number (TBN) 12.5

What are your thoughts on this oil?

 

[firemachine69]

Kind of doubt it can pull all that off... High visc. but such a low pour-point?

 

[tuckman]

Even with a PAO basestock?

 

[firemachine69]

It's GRP4 at best, not Slick 50.

 

[tuckman]

I am wondering because my neighbor sells it and he can get it to me at the same price as i can get Esso XD3 0W-30. I will look at the specs for the XD3 seeing that it is a known PAO.

 

[Howard]

Have a look at Co-op DMO 0W-40. I have been using it for a few years now and love it. I used to use XD3 or Petro-Can 5w-40.

 

[Johnny]

Here is the complete Product Data Sheet. Looks like a good oil.

http://www.49northlubricants.com/product...l%20&%20web.pdf

 

[tuckman]

So does anybody think that it could actually pull off a -59C pour point?
That is the biggest reason I would buy it over Esso XD3 0W-30.

 

[D-Roc]

I would go with the Esso. When was the last time it got to -59 without wind where you are?

 

[tuckman]

Originally Posted By: D-Roc
I would go with the Esso. When was the last time it got to -59 without wind where you are?


I live in a river valley and it is at least 5C cooler than out if the valley. This winter we have gotten a few nights of -50C and last winter hit -55C twice. I have experinced -72C a few times in my life...yes, in Alberta!

 

[bruce381]

Originally Posted By: tuckman
So does anybody think that it could actually pull off a -59C pour point?
That is the biggest reason I would buy it over Esso XD3 0W-30.


yeah a 4 and 6 cSt PAO should do it

 

[bruce381]

Also the ASTM PP test is sumewhat subjective in that you may see a 5 deg more or less than I would see.
bruce