48 hours into no refined sugar products

[Slow Car Sport Mode]

But I eat 3 meals a day other than that it's good info.

I can tell you that it is is difficult to get through a day of working without even a small amount of sugar.

I am making the effort, but I need to stay alert and a soft drink seems the only thing that will do, with hours between breaks and no coffee available.

I am increasing my consumption of water, I am also generally eating less. Any other tips to beat the sugar craving?

I am almost trying intermittent fast.

 

[53' Stude]

Worse is eating something high in fat, you will feel gross a little while later and sometimes the next day after you are used to eating low fat, less processed real food like grilled (not fried) fish, poultry and lots of fruit and vegetables.

Sugar and salt is much the same though, but that is instant gross and at times inedible now. I really used to like having a Coke once or twice a week, now it taste like what it really is, drinking corn syrup. Salty foods, can now sometimes ruin a meal, it just taste like garbage. My wife and I can tell the quality of food now and when garbage food is covered up with salt.

An example would be pasta sauce when out to dinner, you know right away if its a real sauce or one to satisfy the publics love of salt. Lots of salt can use cheap ingredients, same goes for sugar added stuff and yeah, fatty stuff. Its kind of fun now, once you are back to basic foods you remember what real stuff taste like and can critique the food you eat with accuracy instead of relying on what corporations get you used too and "sell" you on.

As a nation we are a mess when it comes to nutrition. It really is about companies using whatever it takes to make you want to eat it and keep coming back, its like a death race for them, as long as people keep demanding it they will keep pouring it on and compete with each other to make you want their food at any cost. They are in your head and why a Western Diet is killing people all around the world as it spreads into their country. Corporate Food for maximum Shareholder Profit. In fact, that is the job of a corporation with publicly traded stock, maximum profit.

Good news is, there are people, like even in this thread that demand better and you can selectively chose better in some places and some menu's. By demanding better you are actually getting higher quality food, yeah, sometimes it may cost more and, so?

I taught this stuff to myself over a 10+ year period reading books, wanting to avoid the dreaded family history of heart disease and diabetes. Before that I did eat a fair amount of fruit though also ate a lot of ice cream and other garbage and ate much like everyday Americans did except maybe less fast food.

I have found out there is no such thing as "going on a diet" if people are going on a diet which we will hear so much of as the New Year rolls around both from everyday people and the NEWS MEDIA... well to me its all B.S. EVERY FREAKING NEW YEAR, same old gym ads, some old news stories about losing that holiday weight, some old garbage about what diet works! The diet that ALWAYS works is eating real food two times a day with no snacking in-between. Replace an ice cream treat with a great tasting Yasso Yogurt Bar. (chose the lower fat ones but they are all respectable) Or a no sugar added activia yogurt. Bring and Eat an apple if you driving and going out to dinner before you get there or after dinner. No more fast food, fried food, only real food.

No one in the Untied States of America needs to go on a diet!
All they need to do is stop eating junk food and have two heathly meals a day, their weight will drop like a rock down to their proper BMI.
A diet as we call it, on the other hand is nothing more then a B.S. excuse people tell themselves to keep doing what they always do, lose a few pounds and then put it right back on a few months later, it makes them feel good.
Think about that? why a diet? Ummm... why not change the way you eat and get the junk food out of your life? That IS the real commitment, a diet is BS.
(boy I type a lot in this forum*LOL*, and Im not the greatest typist but learning) (Im kind of passionate about this subject watching it kill family members, its hard to sometimes get over genetics if that is a factor in your life but your odds greatly improve and so does quality of life)

BTW- I did/ate bad things in my life for a long time too and only wish I could go back in time with what I have learned and start over, its something not taught in schools in a meaningful way, same as handling finances isnt properly taught in schools... think about that, and what industries have the greatest most powerful lobbying interests in Washington? Banks, Medical, Food. (please no political discussions, just a statement)

I haven’t had any sugar, salt laden stuff and no carbs in a long while. Had a beer earlier in the week; bout it. I can do without breads, pasta etc. may have small bit of oatmeal once in while. I’m still dropping weight too so I’m happy

 

[53' Stude]

I can tell you that it is is difficult to get through a day of working without even a small amount of sugar.

I am making the effort, but I need to stay alert and a soft drink seems the only thing that will do, with hours between breaks and no coffee available.

I am increasing my consumption of water, I am also generally eating less. Any other tips to beat the sugar craving?

I am almost trying intermittent fast.

I have my 20 oz thermal cup of black Colombian roast coffee black. Monday-Friday. Then water all day, no sugar or heavy salt crap at all. I’ll have fish, some carrots, spinach salad, 2 hard boiled eggs, or cooked chicken and broccoli and cauliflower.

 

[mightymousetech]

I hate to tell you, but there is a lot of salt and sugar in the sauces and on the Chinese seasoned vegetables.

The more you open your eyes to it, the more you find refined sugar EVERYWHERE! Its the reason obesity and diabetes are on a gigantic rise.

If you can just try it for 2 weeks, cut out the soft drinks, candy bars, and breads, you will lose the addiction. The first few days will be hard though. Dont gulp milk as a replacement, its sweet too.

Next time you are in the grocery, look at what is in the cart of the morbidly obese. It's breads, chips, sweet cereals and soft drinks. Many of them started out in their teens and not obese, but in time insulin resistance nets you obesity.

Salt is actually not that bad. If going Keto, actually have to increase salt intake to compensate. Salt levels can actually get too low.

 

[CKN]

I count calories and eat what I want-it's all about caloric intake to me. My numbers each year at my annual exam are all satisfactory. Sugar, Carbs, they all get a bum rap-IMHO. BTW- a Big Mac at McDonalds is 500ish calories.

I like the way YouTube has all of a sudden become an authority of how to fix you car, your plumbing and now apparently what to put in your body. I haven't looked-but I'm sure there are the "Scotty Kilmers" of nutrition and health on YouTube.

 

[JHZR2]

Worse is eating something high in fat, you will feel gross a little while later and sometimes the next day after you are used to eating low fat, less processed real food like grilled (not fried) fish, poultry and lots of fruit and vegetables.

Sugar and salt is much the same though, but that is instant gross and at times inedible now. I really used to like having a Coke once or twice a week, now it taste like what it really is, drinking corn syrup. Salty foods, can now sometimes ruin a meal, it just taste like garbage. My wife and I can tell the quality of food now and when garbage food is covered up with salt.

IMO depends upon the fat. Im not a fan of overly fatty meat or ground beef. I trim fat off of and dont eat it. But I could eat a lot of meat and not feel gross. I could eat Pichana, filet, and even lamb at the Brazilian steakhouses in quantity and be fine. But fatty garbage food, processed, covered in cheese and bacon... yuck.

Just enjoyed this the other night, I think all of the fermented stuff I ate with it must help. No gross feeling like when eating junky, low quality food. I think I could eat that 3x a day for a while (of course I wouldnt!) and it wouldnt bother me.

On the other hand, about two years ago I had to eat Mcdonalds twice in a week about two years ago, and I couldnt think of the stuff for about a year...

 

[manicrodder]

I want too. I have cut back on sodas I was drinking 3-4 32 ounce sodas a day but something in my mind told me to stop so now I’ve pretty much cut back to one on work days and 2 on regular days. I know still not completely gone but better. As long as I can have sugar in my coffee I’ll be ok because it’s no good without sugar lol. Now I gotta stop buying Butterfinger and PayDay bars. And I’m young I don’t want to destroy myself now.

Please stop now. You'll have time to destroy yourself later like the rest of us

 

[Zee09]

Please stop now. You'll have time to destroy yourself later like the rest of us

Too late Mani
I saw auto mechanic last night...wow

 

[wwillson]

I count calories and eat what I want-it's all about caloric intake to me. My numbers each year at my annual exam are all satisfactory. Sugar, Carbs, they all get a bum rap-IMHO. BTW- a Big Mac at McDonalds is 500ish calories.

Can I suggest everyone read three books: The Salt Fix, Wheat Belly, and Why We Get Sick. You will never think of food or calories the same as you did in the past.

2000 calories/day laden with sugar will make you fat, 2000 calories/day that aren't derived from sugar will make you thin. The idea that consuming 2000 calories/day laden with sugar is ok, is simply wrong.

Sugar is a health crisis in the US and all around the world. Probably 90% of the US population is to some degree insulin resistant. Insulin resistance is worse than terrible for our bodies, old, young, teen, it doesn't matter, if you are insulin resistant, it is slowly killing you, you just don't know it.

 

[Kira]

Thanks for the dietary related book suggestions.
ME: Didn't have soda in the house growing up....habit never initiated. However, I made up for that with baked goods.
FRIEND: Collapsed in a heap last Summer due to salt avoidance. Watch those extremes!
OLD FOOD ADDAGE: Steer clear of the "3 deadly whites" (salt, sugar, white flour).
TRUTH: Don't overlook cardio. You gotta pump the heart and tax the lungs (I've been told).

PERSONAL: I remember when Mountain Dew was introduced! It was immeasurably sweet, colored to resemble anti-freeze and pregnant women were advised not to drink it. What could be wrong with that?

PERSONAL: In the '40's an uncle worked in a soda bottling plant in Brooklyn. The mixers (food chemists) implored all the guys never to drink the product.
He made up for it by smoking heavily and becoming an acute alcoholic. He died young.

 

[alarmguy]

Other then eating properly I am not at all in favor of any particular diet or book on what to eat. Much of which people use as a crutch and then a few weeks later they forget all about it. But it does work for a small minority of people, some of which have posted in here and for me, it was more of a confirmation AFTER I decided to take nutrition to the next level. Sorry but I do not in anyway discount proper lipid levels and think low sugar, low fat, low refined carbs is the way to go.

I did find this book motivating in my desire to avoid as best as possible "heart disease" Its not a diet book, its a way of life book. Keep in mind I was already motivated and practicing a lot of this, the book helped confirm and make me feel good about what I was doing.
https://chaunceycrandall.com/books
Its been a while since reading it but its a good read, I actually have it on one of our tables and see it in passing everyday. I see the reference to "god" in the title, its not some book promoting religion just so you know.

I think the stats I posted in this thread speak for themselves and stand by it, if it helps anyone, again, there are many ways to get to a goal and mine by no means are for everyone, no one method is for everyone but the desire to watch what you eat IS a method for everyone.
Ill post my link in this thread in case anyone missed it, the "UOA" on my blood has better science behind it then UOA on oil *LOL*
NOTE' I come from a family history of disastrous heart disease and diabetes and so far I have avoided it and other family members diagnosed 20 years before my current age. "Fingers still crossed" it continues.

My post from previous page = https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...no-refined-sugar-products.348888/post-5963817

To me, its a lifestyle change which is the way you look at food. There is no reason on planet earth to eat a donut or piece of cake or a cookie, fried food, fast food, ice cream. One needs to block out getting satisfaction from eating to looking at it more like filling the gas tank on your car, supply what you body needs to function at its best. You will be amazed once you get the junk out of your life how good you will feel and actually start enjoying good food.

Its really easy to do if you throw out all the snacks and stop grazing in-between meals. The weight will come off naturally and if you are on some statins ect ... you may find you no longer need them.

Here is an interesting stat from the CDC. 659,000 people a year die from it, 1 in every 4 deaths every year @ a cost of 363 billion a year.
https://www.cdc.gov/heartdisease/facts.htm

I dont want to sound like know it all, I just am REALLY passionate about the subject having been exposed to family members over decades of time battling heart disease and diabetes. Yeah, my family thinks I am a bit extreme too, but that's ok *LOL*

GON (OP) = Sorry if I got carried away in your thread ... Ill stop now.

 

[wwillson]

OLD FOOD ADDAGE: Steer clear of the "3 deadly whites" (salt

Low salt diets have killed so many people it's sickening. The low salt diet was based on purely junk science, which is documented very well in "The Salt Fix" Shorting your body on salt actually raises your heart rate and blood pressure. There are some human conditions which do require low salt diets, but that's a very small percentage of the population.

 

[Malo83]

Cut a lot of sugar and sweets, alcohol from my diet, but sorry I have to have my sourdough bread.

 

[#18FAN]

Other then eating properly I am not at all in favor of any particular diet or book on what to eat. Much of which people use as a crutch and then a few weeks later they forget all about it. But it does work for a small minority of people, some of which have posted in here and for me, it was more of a confirmation AFTER I decided to take nutrition to the next level. Sorry but I do not in anyway discount proper lipid levels and think low sugar, low fat, low refined carbs is the way to go.

I did find this book motivating in my desire to avoid as best as possible "heart disease" Its not a diet book, its a way of life book. Keep in mind I was already motivated and practicing a lot of this, the book helped confirm and make me feel good about what I was doing.
https://chaunceycrandall.com/books
Its been a while since reading it but its a good read, I actually have it on one of our tables and see it in passing everyday. I see the reference to "god" in the title, its not some book promoting religion just so you know.

I think the stats I posted in this thread speak for themselves and stand by it, if it helps anyone, again, there are many ways to get to a goal and mine by no means are for everyone, no one method is for everyone but the desire to watch what you eat IS a method for everyone.
Ill post my link in this thread in case anyone missed it, the "UOA" on my blood has better science behind it then UOA on oil *LOL*
NOTE' I come from a family history of disastrous heart disease and diabetes and so far I have avoided it and other family members diagnosed 20 years before my current age. "Fingers still crossed" it continues.

My post from previous page = https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...no-refined-sugar-products.348888/post-5963817

To me, its a lifestyle change which is the way you look at food. There is no reason on planet earth to eat a donut or piece of cake or a cookie, fried food, fast food, ice cream. One needs to block out getting satisfaction from eating to looking at it more like filling the gas tank on your car, supply what you body needs to function at its best. You will be amazed once you get the junk out of your life how good you will feel and actually start enjoying good food.

Its really easy to do if you throw out all the snacks and stop grazing in-between meals. The weight will come off naturally and if you are on some statins ect ... you may find you no longer need them.

Here is an interesting stat from the CDC. 659,000 people a year die from it, 1 in every 4 deaths every year @ a cost of 363 billion a year.
https://www.cdc.gov/heartdisease/facts.htm

I dont want to sound like know it all, I just am REALLY passionate about the subject having been exposed to family members over decades of time battling heart disease and diabetes. Yeah, my family thinks I am a bit extreme too, but that's ok *LOL*

GON (OP) = Sorry if I got carried away in your thread ... Ill stop now.

The piece of Birthday cake and ice cream was never the problem and can be enjoyed occasionally.

 

[alarmguy]

The piece of Birthday cake and ice cream was never the problem and can be enjoyed occasionally.

Absolutely, though you may find that you do not enjoy it as much if it’s truly just an occasional thing.
Once I was fully into eating as my posts say, I have one anything goes dinner and desert night every Saturday but find myself now not wanting cakes and ice cream like I used to and I find not wanting anything goes dinners anymore on those Sat nights almost all the time with an exception once in a while but has become rare because it’s become more alien to me eating sweets and fatty foods.
Still love pizza though lol … but again it’s now once every couple months instead of once a week.

 

[#18FAN]

Absolutely, though you may find that you do not enjoy it as much if it’s truly just an occasional thing.
Once I was fully into eating as my posts say, I have one anything goes dinner and desert night every Saturday but find myself now not wanting cakes and ice cream like I used to and I find not wanting anything goes dinners anymore on those Sat nights almost all the time with an exception once in a while but has become rare

No I still enjoy it and eat as restricted as most anyone will in fact most times it will be post workout. People talk eating this and that I think is great but think very few here are working out min 3days a week and not just counting step. As someone who working out 6 days a week no not needed lifting and cardio opposite days you want your body to feel gains grow and turn into a fuel burning machine that’s when it really happens.

 

[Slow Car Sport Mode]

I am in a sugar reduction phase. Mixed in with as much of a fast as I can handle.

My current sugar allotment product should take me through the new year.

Last night, I bought 32 ounces of salads and some dressing. 16 ounces of it is almost gone. I like eating that more than processed junk snacks.. balancing working and what to eat with having to be active and alert with also my job makes us do cardio. I should get out and walk 6 miles today.. that is cardio too.

Sugar reduction, IMHO, is a start.

 

[wpod]

Yes, you are right. Starting with refined sugar first. Will look at other things like refined grains, potato chips, etc after I get passed this step.

All that stuff is exactly like refined Sugar. Do it now.

 

[wpod]

It will definitely be hard. I take candy bars to work for snacks and beef jerky and combos too. And a can of soda. I just placed a large Chinese food order not all for me feeding the parents tonight too. And stopping to on the way home to get sodas at the gas station my problem is I don’t want to skip them because we get them free so it doesn’t cost me anything. Now cereal I rarely ever eat but when I do it’s the most unhealthy kind you can get like Crunch Berries or Cinnamon Toast Crunch or something like that. I do like Honey Bunches of Oats too. I know I have went a few days in my life without soda trying to get away and had too many withdrawal feelings so I had to get one. Plus is so tempting when I see my family members drinking soda and me doing without. I have to stop my bad habits I think I’ll be alright for right now if I quit or mainly quit.

Remember what ever bad that happens to you body is happening now , it only gets worst. For example remove the air filter from your engines. Yeah the engine will not instantly fail but the engine life will be shortened , greatly. It is funny people want to put the best into their car and put garbage in their body.

 

[Slow Car Sport Mode]

Just walked about two miles.. maybe if I can not eat anything the rest of the day, I'll come out ahead. Light activity. I work Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, then we all bolt out Thursday next week and see ya next year...