4 way stops

[brianl703]

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Originally posted by TheTanSedan:
Luckily, state law allows a full stop ten feet before that imaginary line, so timing ones way across the 4-way can be worked to advantage. Funny to see the reactions of others when you actually the use the rules to advantage. (Carefully).

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If someone looks like they'll make a rolling stop and I'm near the white line, I'll make a complete stop (faster than I normally would've) and since I came to a complete stop first, I get to go. Even the people who think rolling stops are OK seem to understand that.

Might make them think twice the next time..or not.

 

[kenw]

iirc, the rule is the person to the right has the ROW, *IF* both arrive simultaneously. "Arrive" is commonly defined as "stopped" AND at head of the line.

>>The stop you made behind someone in front of you doesn't count...

This can make for some interesting accomodations by some insanely "polite" drivers since there's never more than one person at a 4 way that comprehends this. It only takes one fogbound driver at a 4 way to screw it up for everyone. It's that lobotomizer I mentioned earlier.

When in doubt make sure you stop first and stop clearly so that there is no doubt by anyone else that you ARE stopped, and therefore have the ROW.....even if a few feet (not sure about 10') back from the line and then proceed as if no one else has a clue and will hit you if given half a chance....


The rules of 4 way stops: "He who hesitates, waits."

However, being overly agressive can get you shot.

 

[labman]

One of the few justifications for a 4 way stop is limited visibility. I always stop well past the sign where I can see if some dolt is coming entirely too fast to stop if I take my ROW. Note, the driving manual for my state suggest stopping before the sign, and then pulling up and stopping again. A recipe for getting rear ended.

Doesn't whoever has the biggest truck, have the ROW? When our Grand Am was new, my son commented on how much easier it was to be allowed to go when he was in my disreputable looking, little truck.

 

[moribundman]

In CA it's common practice that when two cars approach a 2/3/4-way stop, one car will stop, while the other one will not quite stop and proceed to quickly sprint across. Yes, in CA the one who stops is the loser. Sad!

 

[Jay]

Another problem with all-way stops is that if you do get into an accident in one, you'll never be able to prove who was at fault.

 

[Gary Allan]

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Doesn't whoever has the biggest truck, have the ROW?

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Yes, but it's spelled Right Of WEIGHT

In a 4way stop ..if there's any chance of dispute ..I make sure I'm the LAST guy to approach the "staged" area. I let all others get there 1, 2, and 3 positions. Then there's no conflict for me. I just wait until all the original members are gone. Even this "anti-screw up" technique fails when the one and only social person doesn't realize that they're next and one of the other positions (now another person) is occupied by an anti-social person.

 

[Jimbo]

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Originally posted by moribundman:
In CA it's common practice that when two cars approach a 2/3/4-way stop, one car will stop, while the other one will not quite stop and proceed to quickly sprint across. Yes, in CA the one who stops is the loser. Sad!

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This is a variation on the Brazilian method. The one that honks first doesnt have to stop.

On my normal commute there are a couple intersectios where the traffic signals fail to blinking red on a semi-regular basis. This can make things complicated since there are six lanes of traffic in one direction, four in the other, plus four sets of left turn lanes, and a set of railroad tracks crossing the whole mess. Everyone seems to figure out how to take turns without much of a problem.

 

[brianl703]

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Originally posted by Jimbo:

Originally posted by moribundman:
[qb]On my normal commute there are a couple intersectios where the traffic signals fail to blinking red on a semi-regular basis.

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That's messed up. I suppose the government agency in charge of those lights simply doesn't care to fix the problem with them.