On the other hand several people have displayed photographs and told stories about Mobil 1 oil or Pennzoil synthetics keeping their engines clean. We have a fairly good amount of such evidence and testimony. Not to mention the fact that Pennzoil has actual engine sequence testing results.
2nd Kreen Cleaning -- 98 Camry V6 -- Results
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You're sounding more and more like skyship.
Even Trav mentioned the trust factor in oil companies vs small outfits that can't do enough testing.
Demarpaint though was always vocal about people who inherit cars that have been neglected so can't be cleaned by oil alone.
I'm more of the opinion that unless there is a mechanical problem, why be so obsessed with cleaning to the point of using non approved additives?
Dnewton had a reason to try AutoRX, as did several others. But many who were disappointed were only after cleaning. That includes Artem with Kreen so its not just about ARX.
If I had to clean, I would want to go slow and would go the route of a high detergent oil.
So forget about M1 or PP, we're really talking about Maxlife here.
Even Trav mentioned the trust factor in oil companies vs small outfits that can't do enough testing.
Demarpaint though was always vocal about people who inherit cars that have been neglected so can't be cleaned by oil alone.
I'm more of the opinion that unless there is a mechanical problem, why be so obsessed with cleaning to the point of using non approved additives?
Dnewton had a reason to try AutoRX, as did several others. But many who were disappointed were only after cleaning. That includes Artem with Kreen so its not just about ARX.
If I had to clean, I would want to go slow and would go the route of a high detergent oil.
So forget about M1 or PP, we're really talking about Maxlife here.
Originally Posted By: FoxS
Originally Posted By: Mystic
We should notice at least some cleaning and if there is none the only thing reasonable people can do is conclude that the cleaner is not effective.
Ok if that is your criteria then you can conclude from Artem, who included the pictures that you insist on, that ARX and Kreen are effective and that ARX cleans 5 times better than Kreen.
He said ARX cleaned about 10% and Kreen 2%.
Btw, by his criteria, that meant they didn't work, but by yours they were "effective".
FoxS, I used that percentage as an example. It is not in any way a fact and certainly doesn't show what really happened during the cleaning attempts.
It was just a demonstration that although ARX didn't clean much, it cleaned off more goo then Kreen did, which is said to be a super strong cleaner. Lets not forget that fact that Kreen went AFTER Auto-RX, which as others have pointed out, has "softened" the goo, thus Kreen should have rinsed that sucker right off! It didn't and in my testing, that's saying something about it's cleaning abilities.
Originally Posted By: Mystic
We should notice at least some cleaning and if there is none the only thing reasonable people can do is conclude that the cleaner is not effective.
Ok if that is your criteria then you can conclude from Artem, who included the pictures that you insist on, that ARX and Kreen are effective and that ARX cleans 5 times better than Kreen.
He said ARX cleaned about 10% and Kreen 2%.
Btw, by his criteria, that meant they didn't work, but by yours they were "effective".
FoxS, I used that percentage as an example. It is not in any way a fact and certainly doesn't show what really happened during the cleaning attempts.
It was just a demonstration that although ARX didn't clean much, it cleaned off more goo then Kreen did, which is said to be a super strong cleaner. Lets not forget that fact that Kreen went AFTER Auto-RX, which as others have pointed out, has "softened" the goo, thus Kreen should have rinsed that sucker right off! It didn't and in my testing, that's saying something about it's cleaning abilities.
Originally Posted By: Mystic
It is a major red flag when a company makes excuses why the product did not work and either does not have a money back guarantee or even worse, refuses to honor a money back guarantee.
I have been here a long time. I can remember when Auto-RX discussions dominated the Oil Additives Section. At that time I was a supporter of Auto-RX, because a seal leak on a car I used to own stopped leaking after I did an Auto-RX cleaning. Even as a supporter (at that time) of Auto-RX I felt that there should be discussion about more things in the Oil Additives Section. I came out with a post to that effect and FM, who was a member here at that time, ripped into me for daring to suggest other things should be discussed.
That was one of the reasons I moved away from Auto-RX. But the main reason was when a guy here in a post stated that he had promoted Auto-RX for free product. I don't know if he was telling the truth or not but after all of that mess I stopped using Auto-RX. Plus in ten years here I never really saw any good proof that Auto-RX cleaned an engine. Maybe it is a good seal conditioner.
I've cleaned all our engines over 12 odd years and most several times. I just imported my 3rd case at great expense and very happy to keep using it. I still won't be following instructions, I have a brain and use it.
It is a major red flag when a company makes excuses why the product did not work and either does not have a money back guarantee or even worse, refuses to honor a money back guarantee.
I have been here a long time. I can remember when Auto-RX discussions dominated the Oil Additives Section. At that time I was a supporter of Auto-RX, because a seal leak on a car I used to own stopped leaking after I did an Auto-RX cleaning. Even as a supporter (at that time) of Auto-RX I felt that there should be discussion about more things in the Oil Additives Section. I came out with a post to that effect and FM, who was a member here at that time, ripped into me for daring to suggest other things should be discussed.
That was one of the reasons I moved away from Auto-RX. But the main reason was when a guy here in a post stated that he had promoted Auto-RX for free product. I don't know if he was telling the truth or not but after all of that mess I stopped using Auto-RX. Plus in ten years here I never really saw any good proof that Auto-RX cleaned an engine. Maybe it is a good seal conditioner.
I've cleaned all our engines over 12 odd years and most several times. I just imported my 3rd case at great expense and very happy to keep using it. I still won't be following instructions, I have a brain and use it.
Sprintman, you're hilarious. No offense but usually people who have a brain and use it actually follow the instructions of the manufacturer and the brainless folks think they are smarter then the rest and make up their own rules as they go along.
If the manufacturer of your engine says the block takes 5 quarts to fill up, would you put in 10 because you think 2x the amount of oil is better?
Hold up, maybe that's what's going on here... Perhaps you put in 2x the amount of required oil into your engine, hence you need 2x the dose of Auto-RX to get the results the rest of the "brainless" people only need a single bottle to achieve?
If the manufacturer of your engine says the block takes 5 quarts to fill up, would you put in 10 because you think 2x the amount of oil is better?
Hold up, maybe that's what's going on here... Perhaps you put in 2x the amount of required oil into your engine, hence you need 2x the dose of Auto-RX to get the results the rest of the "brainless" people only need a single bottle to achieve?
Originally Posted By: Mystic
On the other hand several people have displayed photographs and told stories about Mobil 1 oil or Pennzoil synthetics keeping their engines clean. We have a fairly good amount of such evidence and testimony. Not to mention the fact that Pennzoil has actual engine sequence testing results.
On the other hand several people have displayed photographs and told stories about Mobil 1 oil or Pennzoil synthetics keeping their engines clean. We have a fairly good amount of such evidence and testimony. Not to mention the fact that Pennzoil has actual engine sequence testing results.
Actually Artem, ARX have an instruction for a fast track application which is 2 bottles.
And remember, ARX hasn't been scientifically tested so its hard to say what the right treatment regimen is and how that alters depending on maintenance history.
A good example of brainless when not following manufacturer instructions would be Techron. Chevron did extensive testing and found a point where extra PEA had no further effect. They also observed that carbon returned at 3000 miles.
So those talking about shock treatments are about the most brainless folks I've seen.
sprintman can at least point to the fact that ARX hasn't had enough testing for the instructions to be scientifically valid.
And remember, ARX hasn't been scientifically tested so its hard to say what the right treatment regimen is and how that alters depending on maintenance history.
A good example of brainless when not following manufacturer instructions would be Techron. Chevron did extensive testing and found a point where extra PEA had no further effect. They also observed that carbon returned at 3000 miles.
So those talking about shock treatments are about the most brainless folks I've seen.
sprintman can at least point to the fact that ARX hasn't had enough testing for the instructions to be scientifically valid.
Originally Posted By: Artem
Originally Posted By: FoxS
Originally Posted By: Mystic
We should notice at least some cleaning and if there is none the only thing reasonable people can do is conclude that the cleaner is not effective.
Ok if that is your criteria then you can conclude from Artem, who included the pictures that you insist on, that ARX and Kreen are effective and that ARX cleans 5 times better than Kreen.
He said ARX cleaned about 10% and Kreen 2%.
Btw, by his criteria, that meant they didn't work, but by yours they were "effective".
FoxS, I used that percentage as an example. It is not in any way a fact and certainly doesn't show what really happened during the cleaning attempts.
It was just a demonstration that although ARX didn't clean much, it cleaned off more goo then Kreen did, which is said to be a super strong cleaner. Lets not forget that fact that Kreen went AFTER Auto-RX, which as others have pointed out, has "softened" the goo, thus Kreen should have rinsed that sucker right off! It didn't and in my testing, that's saying something about it's cleaning abilities.
Point taken and I know you were doing an analogy rather than an "example" (if it was an example then I would right in quoting it!)
However, it was a bad idea to do an analogy that said one cleaned 10% and one cleaned 2%. The point being, you're kind of quantifying your results which is not an unreasonable approach, and you were making a comparison.
I'd invite you again to restate those numbers, with 100% being completely cleaned. What percentage cleaning do you think Kreen and ARX did? (You can go below 1% if you like!)
In defense of Kreen, it was probably getting rid of ARX and didn't have any strength left to deal with sludge!
Originally Posted By: FoxS
Originally Posted By: Mystic
We should notice at least some cleaning and if there is none the only thing reasonable people can do is conclude that the cleaner is not effective.
Ok if that is your criteria then you can conclude from Artem, who included the pictures that you insist on, that ARX and Kreen are effective and that ARX cleans 5 times better than Kreen.
He said ARX cleaned about 10% and Kreen 2%.
Btw, by his criteria, that meant they didn't work, but by yours they were "effective".
FoxS, I used that percentage as an example. It is not in any way a fact and certainly doesn't show what really happened during the cleaning attempts.
It was just a demonstration that although ARX didn't clean much, it cleaned off more goo then Kreen did, which is said to be a super strong cleaner. Lets not forget that fact that Kreen went AFTER Auto-RX, which as others have pointed out, has "softened" the goo, thus Kreen should have rinsed that sucker right off! It didn't and in my testing, that's saying something about it's cleaning abilities.
Point taken and I know you were doing an analogy rather than an "example" (if it was an example then I would right in quoting it!)
However, it was a bad idea to do an analogy that said one cleaned 10% and one cleaned 2%. The point being, you're kind of quantifying your results which is not an unreasonable approach, and you were making a comparison.
I'd invite you again to restate those numbers, with 100% being completely cleaned. What percentage cleaning do you think Kreen and ARX did? (You can go below 1% if you like!)
In defense of Kreen, it was probably getting rid of ARX and didn't have any strength left to deal with sludge!
Originally Posted By: FoxS
In defense of Kreen, it was probably getting rid of ARX and didn't have any strength left to deal with sludge!
In my defense of Auto-RX... ARX was drained out of the engine and the oil was changed ( sure some will say a small amount remains in the engine) ok, the oil was then changed again after the rinse change. I'd imagine that after 2 oil changes, all of ARX would have flushed out by now.
I'm sure all of the Kreen I added into the block simply flashed off / evaporated the instant I buried the GO pedal into the carpet and ran the engine to redline in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear while getting on the highway...
and it didn't stand a chance to actually do any cleaning.
In defense of Kreen, it was probably getting rid of ARX and didn't have any strength left to deal with sludge!
In my defense of Auto-RX... ARX was drained out of the engine and the oil was changed ( sure some will say a small amount remains in the engine) ok, the oil was then changed again after the rinse change. I'd imagine that after 2 oil changes, all of ARX would have flushed out by now.
I'm sure all of the Kreen I added into the block simply flashed off / evaporated the instant I buried the GO pedal into the carpet and ran the engine to redline in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear while getting on the highway...
Originally Posted By: Artem
Originally Posted By: FoxS
In defense of Kreen, it was probably getting rid of ARX and didn't have any strength left to deal with sludge!
In my defense of Auto-RX... ARX was drained out of the engine and the oil was changed ( sure some will say a small amount remains in the engine) ok, the oil was then changed again after the rinse change. I'd imagine that after 2 oil changes, all of ARX would have flushed out by now.
I'm sure all of the Kreen I added into the block simply flashed off / evaporated the instant I buried the GO pedal into the carpet and ran the engine to redline in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear while getting on the highway...
and it didn't stand a chance to actually do any cleaning.
Artem, with your driving style I am sure you got the engine nice and hot, so I would think this should help auto-rx plus in cleaning up your engine, sounds like on this run of auto-rx plus that you were not doing much stop and go driving.
Originally Posted By: FoxS
In defense of Kreen, it was probably getting rid of ARX and didn't have any strength left to deal with sludge!
In my defense of Auto-RX... ARX was drained out of the engine and the oil was changed ( sure some will say a small amount remains in the engine) ok, the oil was then changed again after the rinse change. I'd imagine that after 2 oil changes, all of ARX would have flushed out by now.
I'm sure all of the Kreen I added into the block simply flashed off / evaporated the instant I buried the GO pedal into the carpet and ran the engine to redline in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear while getting on the highway...
Artem, with your driving style I am sure you got the engine nice and hot, so I would think this should help auto-rx plus in cleaning up your engine, sounds like on this run of auto-rx plus that you were not doing much stop and go driving.
Originally Posted By: V8man
Originally Posted By: Artem
Originally Posted By: FoxS
In defense of Kreen, it was probably getting rid of ARX and didn't have any strength left to deal with sludge!
In my defense of Auto-RX... ARX was drained out of the engine and the oil was changed ( sure some will say a small amount remains in the engine) ok, the oil was then changed again after the rinse change. I'd imagine that after 2 oil changes, all of ARX would have flushed out by now.
I'm sure all of the Kreen I added into the block simply flashed off / evaporated the instant I buried the GO pedal into the carpet and ran the engine to redline in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear while getting on the highway...
and it didn't stand a chance to actually do any cleaning.
Artem, with your driving style I am sure you got the engine nice and hot, so I would think this should help auto-rx plus in cleaning up your engine, sounds like on this run of auto-rx plus that you were not doing much stop and go driving.
Sounds to me like he was just doing a different kind of stop and go driving: push the pedal til it stops and see how fast you can go.
Originally Posted By: Artem
Originally Posted By: FoxS
In defense of Kreen, it was probably getting rid of ARX and didn't have any strength left to deal with sludge!
In my defense of Auto-RX... ARX was drained out of the engine and the oil was changed ( sure some will say a small amount remains in the engine) ok, the oil was then changed again after the rinse change. I'd imagine that after 2 oil changes, all of ARX would have flushed out by now.
I'm sure all of the Kreen I added into the block simply flashed off / evaporated the instant I buried the GO pedal into the carpet and ran the engine to redline in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear while getting on the highway...
Artem, with your driving style I am sure you got the engine nice and hot, so I would think this should help auto-rx plus in cleaning up your engine, sounds like on this run of auto-rx plus that you were not doing much stop and go driving.
Sounds to me like he was just doing a different kind of stop and go driving: push the pedal til it stops and see how fast you can go.
Originally Posted By: KeMBro2012
Sounds to me like he was doing a different kind of stop and go driving: push the pedal til it stops and see how fast you can go.
This is hard driving, I am wondering if the discolrization in Artem's Engine is from Fuel Dillution, maybe with his hard driving unburnt fuel is getting past his rings and his PCV System can't handle all of the vapors so that is why he has discolorization inside his engine.
Sounds to me like he was doing a different kind of stop and go driving: push the pedal til it stops and see how fast you can go.
This is hard driving, I am wondering if the discolrization in Artem's Engine is from Fuel Dillution, maybe with his hard driving unburnt fuel is getting past his rings and his PCV System can't handle all of the vapors so that is why he has discolorization inside his engine.
Originally Posted By: V8man
Originally Posted By: Artem
Originally Posted By: FoxS
In defense of Kreen, it was probably getting rid of ARX and didn't have any strength left to deal with sludge!
In my defense of Auto-RX... ARX was drained out of the engine and the oil was changed ( sure some will say a small amount remains in the engine) ok, the oil was then changed again after the rinse change. I'd imagine that after 2 oil changes, all of ARX would have flushed out by now.
I'm sure all of the Kreen I added into the block simply flashed off / evaporated the instant I buried the GO pedal into the carpet and ran the engine to redline in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear while getting on the highway...
and it didn't stand a chance to actually do any cleaning.
Artem, with your driving style I am sure you got the engine nice and hot, so I would think this should help auto-rx plus in cleaning up your engine, sounds like on this run of auto-rx plus that you were not doing much stop and go driving.
during the current cleaning phase with Auto-RX Plus, the engine only saw highway driving (400 miles of non stop driving one way, sat overnight and 400 miles back the next day). I then went on another road trip a day after getting back into town and racked up another 600 miles of non stop highway driving @ 76mph with the engine purring along @ 2,800rpm.
Auto-RX Plus had 4 days and 1,400 miles to work it's magic and then I pulled the valve cover for one of my "sneak peeks" to see how things are going...
Originally Posted By: Artem
Originally Posted By: FoxS
In defense of Kreen, it was probably getting rid of ARX and didn't have any strength left to deal with sludge!
In my defense of Auto-RX... ARX was drained out of the engine and the oil was changed ( sure some will say a small amount remains in the engine) ok, the oil was then changed again after the rinse change. I'd imagine that after 2 oil changes, all of ARX would have flushed out by now.
I'm sure all of the Kreen I added into the block simply flashed off / evaporated the instant I buried the GO pedal into the carpet and ran the engine to redline in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear while getting on the highway...
Artem, with your driving style I am sure you got the engine nice and hot, so I would think this should help auto-rx plus in cleaning up your engine, sounds like on this run of auto-rx plus that you were not doing much stop and go driving.
during the current cleaning phase with Auto-RX Plus, the engine only saw highway driving (400 miles of non stop driving one way, sat overnight and 400 miles back the next day). I then went on another road trip a day after getting back into town and racked up another 600 miles of non stop highway driving @ 76mph with the engine purring along @ 2,800rpm.
Auto-RX Plus had 4 days and 1,400 miles to work it's magic and then I pulled the valve cover for one of my "sneak peeks" to see how things are going...
Originally Posted By: V8man
Originally Posted By: KeMBro2012
Sounds to me like he was doing a different kind of stop and go driving: push the pedal til it stops and see how fast you can go.
This is hard driving, I am wondering if the discolrization in Artem's Engine is from Fuel Dillution, maybe with his hard driving unburnt fuel is getting past his rings and his PCV System can't handle all of the vapors so that is why he has discolorization inside his engine.
If that was the case, I'd expect the same discoloration in my engine. The fact is once the oil gets up above 190F and maintains those temperatures for 15-20min or longer, it takes pretty severe fuel dilution (like multiple severely cracked and/or stuck rings; you'd likely see little or no compression on one or more cylinders) for any discernible amount of fuel to be left in the oil once it's cooled down.
One example of this is my Corolla, which had (possibly still has, but performance indicates they've freed up by now) stuck rings for the duration of my last OCI *and* was driven hard constantly. I never short-tipped it for the duration of the OCI and Blackstone found no fuel in the sample I sent them. Upon stopping the engine, the oil would smell strongly of fuel, but the next morning the fuel smell would be gone; the analysis backs up the fact that the fuel was indeed gone from the oil once it had cooled. The lack of fuel smell when removing the 710 cap immediately after shutting the engine off now tells me that whatever condition was causing the fuel dilution has been corrected.
Originally Posted By: KeMBro2012
Sounds to me like he was doing a different kind of stop and go driving: push the pedal til it stops and see how fast you can go.
This is hard driving, I am wondering if the discolrization in Artem's Engine is from Fuel Dillution, maybe with his hard driving unburnt fuel is getting past his rings and his PCV System can't handle all of the vapors so that is why he has discolorization inside his engine.
If that was the case, I'd expect the same discoloration in my engine. The fact is once the oil gets up above 190F and maintains those temperatures for 15-20min or longer, it takes pretty severe fuel dilution (like multiple severely cracked and/or stuck rings; you'd likely see little or no compression on one or more cylinders) for any discernible amount of fuel to be left in the oil once it's cooled down.
One example of this is my Corolla, which had (possibly still has, but performance indicates they've freed up by now) stuck rings for the duration of my last OCI *and* was driven hard constantly. I never short-tipped it for the duration of the OCI and Blackstone found no fuel in the sample I sent them. Upon stopping the engine, the oil would smell strongly of fuel, but the next morning the fuel smell would be gone; the analysis backs up the fact that the fuel was indeed gone from the oil once it had cooled. The lack of fuel smell when removing the 710 cap immediately after shutting the engine off now tells me that whatever condition was causing the fuel dilution has been corrected.
Originally Posted By: Artem
Originally Posted By: V8man
Originally Posted By: Artem
Originally Posted By: FoxS
In defense of Kreen, it was probably getting rid of ARX and didn't have any strength left to deal with sludge!
In my defense of Auto-RX... ARX was drained out of the engine and the oil was changed ( sure some will say a small amount remains in the engine) ok, the oil was then changed again after the rinse change. I'd imagine that after 2 oil changes, all of ARX would have flushed out by now.
I'm sure all of the Kreen I added into the block simply flashed off / evaporated the instant I buried the GO pedal into the carpet and ran the engine to redline in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear while getting on the highway...
and it didn't stand a chance to actually do any cleaning.
Artem, with your driving style I am sure you got the engine nice and hot, so I would think this should help auto-rx plus in cleaning up your engine, sounds like on this run of auto-rx plus that you were not doing much stop and go driving.
during the current cleaning phase with Auto-RX Plus, the engine only saw highway driving (400 miles of non stop driving one way, sat overnight and 400 miles back the next day). I then went on another road trip a day after getting back into town and racked up another 600 miles of non stop highway driving @ 76mph with the engine purring along @ 2,800rpm.
Auto-RX Plus had 4 days and 1,400 miles to work it's magic and then I pulled the valve cover for one of my "sneak peeks" to see how things are going...
Well? Where's the thread?
Originally Posted By: V8man
Originally Posted By: Artem
Originally Posted By: FoxS
In defense of Kreen, it was probably getting rid of ARX and didn't have any strength left to deal with sludge!
In my defense of Auto-RX... ARX was drained out of the engine and the oil was changed ( sure some will say a small amount remains in the engine) ok, the oil was then changed again after the rinse change. I'd imagine that after 2 oil changes, all of ARX would have flushed out by now.
I'm sure all of the Kreen I added into the block simply flashed off / evaporated the instant I buried the GO pedal into the carpet and ran the engine to redline in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear while getting on the highway...
Artem, with your driving style I am sure you got the engine nice and hot, so I would think this should help auto-rx plus in cleaning up your engine, sounds like on this run of auto-rx plus that you were not doing much stop and go driving.
during the current cleaning phase with Auto-RX Plus, the engine only saw highway driving (400 miles of non stop driving one way, sat overnight and 400 miles back the next day). I then went on another road trip a day after getting back into town and racked up another 600 miles of non stop highway driving @ 76mph with the engine purring along @ 2,800rpm.
Auto-RX Plus had 4 days and 1,400 miles to work it's magic and then I pulled the valve cover for one of my "sneak peeks" to see how things are going...
Well? Where's the thread?
Originally Posted By: V8man
Originally Posted By: KeMBro2012
Sounds to me like he was doing a different kind of stop and go driving: push the pedal til it stops and see how fast you can go.
This is hard driving, I am wondering if the discolrization in Artem's Engine is from Fuel Dillution, maybe with his hard driving unburnt fuel is getting past his rings and his PCV System can't handle all of the vapors so that is why he has discolorization inside his engine.
Originally Posted By: Artem
Where do you see excess fuel in any of my UOAs?
Originally Posted By: KeMBro2012
Sounds to me like he was doing a different kind of stop and go driving: push the pedal til it stops and see how fast you can go.
This is hard driving, I am wondering if the discolrization in Artem's Engine is from Fuel Dillution, maybe with his hard driving unburnt fuel is getting past his rings and his PCV System can't handle all of the vapors so that is why he has discolorization inside his engine.
Originally Posted By: Artem
Where do you see excess fuel in any of my UOAs?
Originally Posted By: KeMBro2012
Originally Posted By: Artem
during the current cleaning phase with Auto-RX Plus, the engine only saw highway driving (400 miles of non stop driving one way, sat overnight and 400 miles back the next day). I then went on another road trip a day after getting back into town and racked up another 600 miles of non stop highway driving @ 76mph with the engine purring along @ 2,800rpm.
Auto-RX Plus had 4 days and 1,400 miles to work it's magic and then I pulled the valve cover for one of my "sneak peeks" to see how things are going...
Well? Where's the thread?
Ummmm... about that...
A certain "somebody" asked me not to post the results until further testing can be done.
Originally Posted By: Artem
during the current cleaning phase with Auto-RX Plus, the engine only saw highway driving (400 miles of non stop driving one way, sat overnight and 400 miles back the next day). I then went on another road trip a day after getting back into town and racked up another 600 miles of non stop highway driving @ 76mph with the engine purring along @ 2,800rpm.
Auto-RX Plus had 4 days and 1,400 miles to work it's magic and then I pulled the valve cover for one of my "sneak peeks" to see how things are going...
Well? Where's the thread?
Ummmm... about that...
A certain "somebody" asked me not to post the results until further testing can be done.
Artem, thanks for providing that UOA, but a UOA is not gonna tell you if your engine is clean or discolored. My feeling is that your engine is discolored because of your driving style.
Since you did state that your engine is running great and with 2 runs of auto-rx and 2 runs of Kreen I would doubt that you have dirty or sticking rings.
The excess fuel is not showing up in your UOA because it is showing up as fuel vapors coating your engine versus the stuff sitting in your oil.
Since you did state that your engine is running great and with 2 runs of auto-rx and 2 runs of Kreen I would doubt that you have dirty or sticking rings.
The excess fuel is not showing up in your UOA because it is showing up as fuel vapors coating your engine versus the stuff sitting in your oil.
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