Mobil 1 ESP 0w30 engine cleaning results

With a virgin oxidation value of 38 (esters) that oil is supposed to clean.
Same value as the new Porsche C40 oil, Mobil 1 X4 0W40 AFAIR.
 
We have already been told by Dave @ RL and I think HPL that not all esters clean so just assuming ester content means cleaning is not a safe assumption.
True. Many ester types in the game and not all of them are meant to clean.
But what would be the cleaning agents they are talking about in this case? Calcium/Magnesium?
 
Whatever Valvoline Restore and Protect is using it has an ability at a very low treat rate to dissolve the most stubborn form of carbon. Now they also seem to be using it in the Fuel System Cleaner.

With ester cobase oils, it is very much based on the type of ester and quantity from everything I've read. You seem to need significantly more ester to function as a cleaner.

I'm curious if it ends up in a Euro blend. It's possible it has limitations won't have any benefit in a high-performance application. Doubtful of that though.

We've yet to see how it does on the GM Turbo, or TEOST. I'm trying to wrap my brain how it would work in terms of preventing/cleaning at same time.
 
Now they also seem to be using it in the Fuel System Cleaner.
Do we know for sure that it's the same ingredient doing the cleaning in the fuel system cleaner? I hadn't seen one way or the other. I know it appears they are using another company to help with the production/formulation of the product.
 
Whatever Valvoline Restore and Protect is using it has an ability at a very low treat rate to dissolve the most stubborn form of carbon.
I don't think it dissolves the actual carbon, but rather the binding agent (varnish, lacquer...etc.) that allows the carbon to build-up. This is how Premium Blue Restore worked as well, but with a huge dose of esters to provide that function.
 
Do we know for sure that it's the same ingredient doing the cleaning in the fuel system cleaner? I hadn't seen one way or the other. I know it appears they are using another company to help with the production/formulation of the product.
Good question, I don't know. Maybe it's not the same.
 
I think their wording can be interpreted more as removing than dissolving.

"Valvoline Restore and Protect features proprietary Active Clean Technology that chemically dissolves deposits into microscopic pieces, so they’re suspended in the motor oil and leave the engine during your next oil change. There’s no impact on the performance or longevity of the oil filter."
 
He wanted to say that other oils may have the same proprietary agent as Valvoline Restore and Protect.

Or at least something functionally similar if chemically different.
Not likely. No one else is dissolving piston ring deposits. We’d know about it. There would be much fanfare and before and after photos like Valvoline did. Why would anyone keep this a secret?

If they did, BITOG would be the first to know too. Someone would post a filter completely loaded with carbon unexpectedly after running a new oil. I am keeping an open mind about Mobil 1 Advanced Clean but I don’t have my hopes up. Until we see people resolving their oil burning problems like with Valvoline Restore and Protect, I’m skeptical it’s anything other than what appears to be a very solid OTS API spec oil.

I’d expect the security around this novel compound Valvoline discovered to rival that of the formula for Coca-Cola. Might be why it’s not even patented, because it would give away too much information about it.
 
another oil which we dont have it here in europe.what the ..dont european cars have carbon buid up?:D
as i see this one comes with 10-30 grade,hths is?
so this one has cleaning esters? is that confirmed?
And you'll probably never see it in Europe. Designed for a cure with a series of Cummins Diesel engines with carbon sticking ring issues. It's expensive and hard to get. Around here even the Cummins dealers have to order it.
Here's a bunch of threads on BITOG about it.
Premium Blue Restore site:bobistheoilguy.com
 
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