I drive my 2gr-fe Sienna about 300 miles a month. During the last year and since the last oil change, I’ve driven about 5k miles which includes a few camping trips along the way. I’m at 1-year now on this change and am prepping for a 5k mile trip in few weeks. But man, the oil looks pretty darn good at this point, and I considered not changing it before I go. No doubt I will chicken out and replace the M1 0w40 FS / Toyota OEM filter with the same a few days before I leave. But I just wanted to share with you guys!
2GR-FE is pretty easy on oil I guess...
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It is very easy on oil.
Here is my 10k OCI on Mobil1 5W30 EP:
Here is my 10k OCI on Mobil1 5W30 EP:
A compromise...
You could remove a couple of quarts [suction out of dipstick tube] and replace the 2 quarts with fresh oil.
You could remove a couple of quarts [suction out of dipstick tube] and replace the 2 quarts with fresh oil.
My first experience with a 2GR-FE was a 2014 Avalon Touring. I did 10k OCI without any issues and even had one 14k OCI with 99% highway driving.
Color doesn't tell you much, but the color on the dipstick was almost always clear.
Oil always came out light brown, I was very impressed with how easy the engine is on oil. I had read countless UOA on the engine, but never got one on my engines yet.
I have owned a 2008 ES350, and it's almost the same story as the 14 Avalon.
I now own a 16,17,18 ES350; they all get 5k OCI with R&P, and the 2GR-FEs have never run better. And with my severe driving habits (82-130mph), I am getting 31 mpg sometimes, which is insane.
Color doesn't tell you much, but the color on the dipstick was almost always clear.
Oil always came out light brown, I was very impressed with how easy the engine is on oil. I had read countless UOA on the engine, but never got one on my engines yet.
I have owned a 2008 ES350, and it's almost the same story as the 14 Avalon.
I now own a 16,17,18 ES350; they all get 5k OCI with R&P, and the 2GR-FEs have never run better. And with my severe driving habits (82-130mph), I am getting 31 mpg sometimes, which is insane.
I get around 24 mpg with my '15 Sienna AWD 2grfe (running 0w40) on highway trips. The coolant has about 25k on it, the air filter is clean and I keep up with 5k oil changes. No oil leaks thank goodness. Been doing a drain and fill every 25k on the U660F transaxle, rear diff and xfer case oil changed also 25k ago, had dealer do a brake fluid flush and brake pad check last Fall. Other than these items, and keeping the Michelin Defenders rotated on time, I can't think of any other preventative maintenance items to do before I leave. Can you? No water pump problems so far, so I am keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks.
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The oil looks amazing. Send it and battle the OCD urge to want to change it out.
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Sienna is easy when it comes to maintenance. We did multiple road trips, 2000, 3000, 5000mls.
The issue with Sienna is following:
1. Aggressive driving will obliterate rotors. Rotors are for grocery getting. If you are not loaded or pushing it, they will do it. They warp. It does not matter do you have 1000 or 10,000mls on them. They are small and made of cheap material (I am talking OE Toyota). I upgraded to EBC rotors and the problem was solved.
2. Clearance. We got rid of our partly bcs. we could not access some cool stuff in some national parks. It was also AWD, but too low.
I would not be worried about mechanical stuff on Sienna. Engine and transmission are the best part of the car. It is other stuff, overall quality, that is an issue.
This is what happened to me on the road trip:
If the tailgate hits an obstacle, the hinges are going to bend. There is no maybe etc. they will! They are too small and weak. Be careful when lowering the gate, not to have an obstacle. My kid pushed the swing bike rack, I did not see it, and the tailgate hit it while lowering. It went back immediately, but it was enough to do this. This was 4 years ago, and back then, a tailgate, without any accessories in it etc. was going $3,200 before labor, moving subwoofer etc. Total back than was around $5,000, which, of course I did not do it. It is such a common issue that the local dealership has a bunch of tailgates stocked in the warehouse. I fixed it temporarily and sold the vehicle to a local Toyota dealer during crazy high used vehicle prices.
I agree with the rotor problem that you stated. I reduced the clearance issue by installing a 2-in lift kit and oversized tires. Hold on, let me see if I can find a picture...
Here is a pic...it has something like 11 inches of clearance now.
Any noticeable oil consumption during ur 10k OCI?
edyvw
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None. With any oil: 0W20, 5W30 or 0W40.
edyvw
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It cannot be 11”. Regular is 6.8”. My Sequoia is 10” and that looks lower.
I was contemplating that, but after tailgate issue, I sold car.
Did you keep regular springs or went SE? I know people lift it and put SE springs and shocks to compensate for loss in handling.
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I'll measure it. Where should I measure from?
It should be stock+lift+tires, so 6.4+2+.5=8.9
Sorry I exaggerated.
Sorry I exaggerated.
edyvw
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Yeah, 6.8" (I think) is original, then lift, and then if you have some beefier tires, yeah.It should be stock+lift+tires, so 6.4+2+.5=8.9
Sorry I exaggerated.
Still, that will help a lot.
2014 Venza 2GR-FE, Sample #2 VOA HPL 5w-30 with VII Euro: Sample #3 4k with filter change; Sample #4 upcoming 10k OCI with filter change
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