2AZ-FE - What is the best oil option?
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It seems that you're doing pretty well with that. You certainly won't need to do any oil shopping for that vehicle for some time.
The idea that Toyota/Scion fixed the piston oil hole problems by 2011 is likely related to the Camry getting the new engine about 2011. Other models that used the 2AZ-FE had dropped it before the Camry. ( RAV-4, etc.) The Scion XB used the same troubled engine to end of that model in 2015. All Scion XB2's are included in the Toyota warranty enhancement for piston replacement. If you flunk their sealed engine 1000-1100 mile oil consumption test. 10 years or 100,000 miles from first in use date of the car.
Yeah, I am at 8.5 years now, and 61,000 miles. It will be at maybe 70,000 miles at the 10 year mark.
Which sucks because it is not a time issue, it is a mileage issue.
But hey, people tout Toyota reliability, and this is my first Toyota product, seems I just happen to get one with a problem engine that hopefully does not have an issue.
Right, okay I see. Well I don't really care about brands when it comes to "quality", I mostly look to approvals, specifications and licenses. So I guess using that logic any brand that carries the license or approval which addresses the specific problem that was asked about is a quality oil as opposed to an oil that does not have that license or approval.
If I was stuck on brands that would make it hard to take advantage of sales and rebates
I understand completely what you are saying... And that makes sense to me.
I am not brand loyal either.... I'm like you in that I like quality and approvals and licenses more than name on a container.
And I like sales too.... Or at least not $35+ for 5 qts of oil...
Having said that....
Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 has Porsche C30 and MB 229.5.... Quite a good oil that can be on sale at Napa for $5.50 a quart. Not too shabby.
Not all too many 5w30s carry Porsche C30 and MB 229.5 and BMW LL-01....
I don’t think there are any oils with C30 and Longlife-01/Mercedes-Benz 229.5?
Yeah C30 has to be mid to low SAPS.
Honestly, I have ran M1 0W-40 in our Toyotas for years without issues and would recommend that if you listed it. However, I would recommend M1 0W-30 in your list of oils. Gas mileage will drop a touch with a slightly thicker grade, but at 180K there are gonna be other factors that play a larger role.
Mine has 182k on it and consumption issues. 0w40 and 0w30 don’t help. Rings are the problem
Drive it hard, that was my last ditch effort for my lexus and it worked.
Ive been trying honestly
Good. It took me 3 oci of 5k with lots of redline runs before I noticed a huge drop, and its the 3.5 2gr-fse with piston ring issues as well, the low tension ring design.
Mine is the 2AZ-FE
There aren't enough flow thru holes from the oil control groove into the inside of the piston. So any oil from that list should be ok, but when it gets cool or cold outside and the car is 1000 - 1500 miles from an oil change, replace one quart of oil with a slow acting engine flush. Marvel Mystery Oil, Kreen, AutoRx, etc. It should help dissolve the varnish/ carbon that's sticks the rings in one position. A handful of wide open throttle tuneups up to fast highway speeds on warmed up oil will help too. You may have to keep repeating the procedure every year or every other year and check the oil level every other gas fill up, but it'll beat the consumption/ fouled CAT alternative.
I guess you chose an oil by now. Both Toyota and Honda are recommending 0W20 oil now for k24 engines for Honda and 2AZ-FE engines in Toyotas.
5W20 is compatible and 5W30 is acceptable but Toyota will probably recommend 0W20 or 5W20 (if you don't have the choice for 0W20).
These webpages might help:
carspecmn.com
rxmechanic.com
5W20 is compatible and 5W30 is acceptable but Toyota will probably recommend 0W20 or 5W20 (if you don't have the choice for 0W20).
These webpages might help:
Toyota and Lexus engine oil – 5w30, 5w20 and synthetic 0w20
Toyota and Lexus engine oil - 5w30, 5w20 and synthetic 0w20 and using the correct oil for your car
carspecmn.com
Can I use 5w20 instead of 0w20 – (0w20 vs. 5w20) | Rx Mechanic
Synthetic oils are the most preferred as they function well in extreme temperatures. Talking about synthetic engine oils, we have to touch on the 0w20 vs. 5w20 discussion.
rxmechanic.com
Toyota 2AZ-FE changes for 5W20
I have a 2009 Vibe with the Toyota 2AZ-FE 2.4 which specs 5W20 or 0W20. From what I've read recently, until a couple of years ago, these engines were spec'd for 5W30. I was wondering what changes were done to the engine for the 5W20 usage. I've read that the older ones aren't supposed to run...
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I bought an 09 Camry with 226k miles on it. The CarFax showed an oil consumption test on it done around 100,000 miles ago, and the previous owner states that Toyota did the repair to fix the consumption problem. The CarFax does not state anything about the piston change.
I need to call the Toyota dealer to confirm this, but so far, 1500 miles into my ownership, I have not used a drop of the oil that was in it when I bought it.
My first oil change will be to Valvoline Synthetic 0w-20, as I have it on my shelf. I also have Valvoline High Mileage 5w-30 on the shelf and could use that if I do end up burning any oil before I do the change at 230k miles.
This car was so well maintained that I took the previous owners word. They took it to Toyota for every little issue, and it shows in the quality of his car at 226k miles.
I need to call the Toyota dealer to confirm this, but so far, 1500 miles into my ownership, I have not used a drop of the oil that was in it when I bought it.
My first oil change will be to Valvoline Synthetic 0w-20, as I have it on my shelf. I also have Valvoline High Mileage 5w-30 on the shelf and could use that if I do end up burning any oil before I do the change at 230k miles.
This car was so well maintained that I took the previous owners word. They took it to Toyota for every little issue, and it shows in the quality of his car at 226k miles.
My 2005 was always a big fan of the 5w20 in Mobil or Pennzoil YB. Both worked great.
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That's a great engine known for its longevity. I would suggest 5w30 valvoline max life high mileage. A lot of good reports with it.
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