2026 Toyota C-HR XSE
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Stylish, lightweight and fast!
I don't know anyone that drives more than 50 miles a day. Even if your daily commute was 100 miles a day and you could charge at home, it's not an issue for many people. That 40k CUV will be quicker than most ICE cars on the road.
While you aren't wrong on the range thing, i look it more of a perceived value issue. I pay $40k for this small vehicle with 250 miles of range? Doesn't feel like much. The power is pretty much irrelevant to most buyers of this type of vehicle.
I totally agree. A small AWD EV is on my list of interests. But, I can get an AWD ICE vehicle new for $30k. The $10k spread is too much for me personally. That's just my opinion of course.
I'd rather they kept the 160hp and worked on the range or price. I've seen so many EVs crashed in the rain. I can't help but wonder if its the 300hp and instant torque in an economy car contributing to this.
AZjeff
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You have to do the math for your use case not just the up front difference. Costs of fuel, insurance, registration, maintenance for your annual mileage will tell you if it makes economic sense . It seems like most EV drivers here talk about how fast they are and how convienient charge-at-home is and don't talk much about annual cost to own vs ICE.
EVs don't have traction control, stability control, ABS etc?
Toyota owners with an EV interest will likely be delighted. Range would be a bit of a concern to me... 300 is the sweet spot.
If they can keep the price ar $40K, I think Toyota has a compelling vehicle. Would be serious competition to the Model Y.
If they can keep the price ar $40K, I think Toyota has a compelling vehicle. Would be serious competition to the Model Y.
Alot of people in the Denver Metro Area and western slope easily drive more than 50 miles a day.
My 2025MY $85K ICE family hauler has around 250 miles of range around town. My old 2007 Accord 4 cyl has a similar range around town.
Mid 200's range isn't exactly unusual.
While I don't drive that much now, that could always change. But it would never be more than what the typical EV range could handle for a job. However, I do like to go on long drives occasionally and that is where I could see a potential problem.
If you can charge at home, I think 260+ range is good.
If you can charge at home, I think 260+ range is good.
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Mostly agree. That's where I was with the '18 Model 3 Mid Range. It was a great car.
EVs easily overdrive all of those safety features. 100 mph is easily achieved on neighborhood streets by cars that can accelerate to 60 in 3 seconds. Stability control, traction control and anti-lock brakes are not going to save you from entering somebody's living room in that scenario.
I routinely drive 100+ miles in a day. My office is 60 miles away. My in-laws are 55 miles and sometimes I'll go to work and then to their house. An honest 250 mile range in cold and traffic would be the minimum that'd I'd want. Or we'd have two vehicles, an EV for around town and an ICE or PHEV for longer trips.
AZjeff
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The post below was about seeing crashed EVs in the rain. Nothing about doing 100 mph in the rain. ICE cars are going to crash doing 100 in the rain just as well. If you hit the gas on wet roads in a car with all the safety nannies is it going to let you spin out?
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That also depends on your charging options.
How often do you gas up now?
Depreciation is high as well
Don't ask me how I know
