2026 Jeep Recon

I wouldn't give them that much credit.

They're doing what they need to in order to survive at the moment.

They're doubling down on big V8's in the current political climate, so they'll be caught with their pants around their ankles when the wind blows a different way.
Management makes decisions based on best available data and acts based within their resource constraints. It is what it is with Stellantis. Arm chair quarterbacking is a cushy job. Been there recommending 10's to eventually 100's of millions in procurement decisions reporting into the president of a Fortune 50 company. Won a chairman's award saving my US counterpart 60+million USD a year. No armchair in sight.
 
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It is a good looking vehicle! Locking rear differential is a great feature.

But, I don’t understand why anyone would want to drive around with the doors removed? I’m perfectly happy rolling down the windows on a nice day.

Also, water crossings and deep puddles might get interesting with a 400 volt battery pack.
 
It makes me sick. How do people do it? Inflation is through the freakin' roof. It puts people in a hole and they hafta keep digging.
It's just like in the past when you would see a brand new corvette parked in front of a shack with an old washer and dryer on the porch. Some people have their priories all wrong.
 
It's just like in the past when you would see a brand new corvette parked in front of a shack with an old washer and dryer on the porch. Some people have their priories all wrong.
Heck, Honda Civics are too expensive now. But at least they can carry more than 2 occupants, so there's that.
 
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Trail ready sure doesn't mean what it did years ago. That electric Jeep wouldn't last five minutes out in the woods unless it has a 1" thick steel skid plate protecting the battery. I watched a video the other day where a manufacturer said no warranty because a bottle of water spilled in the back floor board and shorted out the whole car. Battery cars aren't going to replace anything until there is a big change in battery technology.
 
Trail ready sure doesn't mean what it did years ago. That electric Jeep wouldn't last five minutes out in the woods unless it has a 1" thick steel skid plate protecting the battery. I watched a video the other day where a manufacturer said no warranty because a bottle of water spilled in the back floor board and shorted out the whole car. Battery cars aren't going to replace anything until there is a big change in battery technology.

lol but most Jeeps (and other vehicles) are purchased by people who want the image of off-road capability and then rarely if ever use it.
 
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lol but most Jeeps (and other vehicles) are purchased by people who want the image of off-road capability and then rarely if ever use it.
Most Jeep owners couldn't get themselves out of a dumpster with two ladders inside the dumpster. But, they would have a smartphone to call 911.
 
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Some offroad recovery company is going to make a ton of money when the city folk start buying them and getting them stuck out in the wilderness.
There is no difference with this vehicle vs Wranglers or really any vehicle. They all get stuck , the downside of better traction is they simply typically stuck further in.
 
Series hybrids just don't work well for the way most people use cars.

There's research out there that people don't plug in their PHEV's making them actually worse in the long run over a regular hybrid. So if you combine that with a range extender you're even worse off.
My daughter’s friends with Jeep Wrangler PHEVs and RAV Prime and a Hornet love them. They get to park on campus close to class while they get charged at Level II. Most use try for free level I plug because it so slow gives them more time as the charger starts to fine them.
 
Reminds me of VW electric van including pricing and lack of interest in short range ve
My daughter’s friends with Jeep Wrangler PHEVs and RAV Prime and a Hornet love them. They get to park on campus close to class while they get charged at Level II. Most use try for free level I plug because it so slow gives them more time as the charger starts to fine them.

Ohh, I agree that I'd love a PHEV, I'd use my campers solar system to charge it while I sleep in the day(permanent night shift), but the research shows that lots of people use them as regular hybrids negating the advantage.
 
lol but most Jeeps (and other vehicles) are purchased by people who want the image of off-road capability and then rarely if ever use it.
They don't know what they are missing. I ran my wrangler until the frame rusted in half. I had a lot of fun.
 
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Yeah, well - most of the vehicles I recover in sand are those big Super Duty Fords - at least the GM’s will have one locker …
My big four door Dodge loves to sink in the mud. All four tires spinning just makes it sink faster. Everybody has to do it at least once to learn. A few winters back I spent an entire day just getting the truck out of the mud. No cell signal and nobody around. Would have been good to have a winch.
 
Not on trails, mud, or sand …
How many miles is someone driving a vehicle in those conditions? Only tests I've seen on trails were up a steep grade, so not sure how much impact on range was from the grade vs terrain. But I can't imagine someone doing 30+ miles on challenging terrain. Especially in a brand new $60,000 vehicle. Seems like an edge case.
 
How many miles is someone driving a vehicle in those conditions? Only tests I've seen on trails were up a steep grade, so not sure how much impact on range was from the grade vs terrain. But I can't imagine someone doing 30+ miles on challenging terrain. Especially in a brand new $60,000 vehicle. Seems like an edge case.
I do this quite often - 22 mile long peninsula - each way …
Not everyone makes it …

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