They will be pardoned by the next president
2025 so far EV sales up 28%
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Can't argue with this but the trend is set they will be pardoned by the next president
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Seems like we have to let disgruntled citizens do as they wish these days. Happened back in 1/6/21 and no real punishment came from it at this point. The adults have left the children at home with instructions “not to burn the house down”. But the kids know mom and dad are big softies when it comes to punishment.
So we now have the first three individuals charged with domestic terrorism. That is exactly what it is.
Something tells me they are going to wish they went out and bought their own Tesla’s and started them on fire by the time the justice department gets done with them and the amount of legal bills that they will have by trying to stay at a prison for the next 20 years.
Keep in mind these people are criminals. They are not your average Joe American family, and they are typically supported by outside forces and outside money. Quite scary what and how they used.
To others, I ask, please do not bring political talk into this or politics. I am strictly talking about law and order. There is no reason to speculate on what any politician might do years from now and it is not allowed in here
Anyway, here is the news story
https://nypost.com/2025/03/20/us-news/pam-bondi-announces-charges-against-3-in-tesla-attacks/
Just read the story and think about what these people have done. It’s insane and it doesn’t matter what the product or reason is.
Something tells me they are going to wish they went out and bought their own Tesla’s and started them on fire by the time the justice department gets done with them and the amount of legal bills that they will have by trying to stay at a prison for the next 20 years.
Keep in mind these people are criminals. They are not your average Joe American family, and they are typically supported by outside forces and outside money. Quite scary what and how they used.
To others, I ask, please do not bring political talk into this or politics. I am strictly talking about law and order. There is no reason to speculate on what any politician might do years from now and it is not allowed in here
Anyway, here is the news story
https://nypost.com/2025/03/20/us-news/pam-bondi-announces-charges-against-3-in-tesla-attacks/
Just read the story and think about what these people have done. It’s insane and it doesn’t matter what the product or reason is.
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Terrorism is defined by which side you are on.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party
How about EV production numbers compared to sales increase? Do we see EV popularity growth or EVs get unloaded at increased rate?
What's the problem?, those Tesla's on fire just look like "mostly peaceful" test drives...
If fuel is at $3/gallon, it costs me about $0.075 a mile with my long paid for Jetta.
Power at .23 kwhr means a Tesla is $0.040 to $0.06 per mile. (Per Google AL)
So in 100k miles, it saves about $2100 to $3500.
I paid $10k for the Jetta in 2010.
Could find plenty of ~40 mpg cars for around that now. Vs $~25k for a used Tesla.
Dunno, what am I missing on it being so much better?
I suppose if fuel is $5/gal then it'd be better.
Power at .23 kwhr means a Tesla is $0.040 to $0.06 per mile. (Per Google AL)
So in 100k miles, it saves about $2100 to $3500.
I paid $10k for the Jetta in 2010.
Could find plenty of ~40 mpg cars for around that now. Vs $~25k for a used Tesla.
Dunno, what am I missing on it being so much better?
I suppose if fuel is $5/gal then it'd be better.
With those numbers your gas is cheaper and your energy costs are higher than mine. My per mile cost is $0.03. I had a slightly older GTI, but the issue was that I really did need AWD being on call no matter the weather. I also wanted a performance car of some sort, so costs got much higher looking for a performance AWD vehicle.
There are ways to do it cheaper. The wants/needs narrowed the possible cars I was looking for. I didn't see keeping the GTI as a daily as an option. 3 years of winter driving unplowed roads in a FWD vehicle at 2am was enough for me.
Your point is valid; your vehicle choice depends on your use case and your wants.
My use case is somewhat unique; I have solar panels, which were purchased to manage the high costs of electricity here. I also like the feel of a performance car, and Teslas have that in spades. Of course I hardly use the potential of our M3P, bur neither would I with a 911 or you name it.
You arent missing a thing. EVs are overpriced and the payoff isnt there unless you buy a first gen Leaf and drive it into the ground for 10 years. A Hybrid Prius will get you there a little faster.
Between sumboodies mail, and your reply the word IF stands out a lot.
There's other goals than just driving the cheapest car on the road cost wise. The faster EVs don't take as hard a cost hit compared to fast ICE cars when it comes to fuel and involved transmission services. With all that figured in the car I came from just to operate was almost 5 times more expensive to drive.
Yes, you can argue there's cheaper ways to do it. I don't think there was a cheaper option with my wants in any gasoline powered vehicle. Most of them were more expensive than the Model Y Performance due to the price drops, let alone more expensive to operate.
Yup, its been hovering around 2.39-2.80 in my area, that adds a few more years I suppose.
It's over 5 in California.
Car pricing based on what you could pick up for 10K used 15 years ago has no relevance to today.
It has plenty of relevance when it comes to gaslighting oneself against buyers remorse, I agree. Many Californians who moved to Texas (and still are) face this today along with catastrophic devaluation and upside down loans.
Just say what you really want to say.
That was a real good deal in your 2010 Jetta.
I think today's EV is starting to look more like the hybrid market right at the end of expensive, subsidy gone era back then. They stopped giving out free carpool lane access back then and the hybrids have to stand on their own feet. EV will soon have to do the same.
Also back then Tesla was "cool" but now everyone and their moms have one, it is just the new Camry and nothing cool about it. Every commodity car goes through that. So, Tesla and other EV has to reduce cost of ownership and compete with hybrid and other gas only car very soon.
Another thing is the battery depreciation cost must be considered like the hybrid as well. A 20 year old EV will be worth less than a 20 year old gas beater. This battery pack depreciation cost must be considered when factoring in purchase price plus charging cost vs gas cost per mile.
Is that supposed to take away from the fact people are buying?
Yes and no.
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