I live in northern MN. I’ve found when it’s extremely cold, even brand-new modern cars have exhaust that stinks until the cats are warmed up a bit.
2025 so far EV sales up 28%
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I live in northern MN. I’ve found when it’s extremely cold, even brand-new modern cars have exhaust that stinks until the cats are warmed up a bit.
Tesla sales are down 13% in California year-over-year but pure electric is only up 1.5-2%.
Sounds like standard small growth is continuing but its money went elsewhere. I like it.
Yeah I became aware of that yesterday. Not too impressed with their efforts.
No. If one entity had so much time to put up a professional, searchable website with such info, assume 1,000,000+ more copies exist out there.
Frankly nobody should be surprised, I get notices all the time about my accounts be compromised by poor corporate security.
Let’s face it, It was probably a 14 year old 4chan bro who put up the site.
"Dogequest" just shows how absolutely pathetic these anti-Tesla losers are.
I'll be a Tesla owner next week...
These people are just uninformed drones of the wealthy and elite
We are starting to look like a Third World country with these pop tarts running around, thinking they’re standing up for social causes
I agree information is out there for anybody who wants it
It won’t last long. They’re already going after some individuals. It’s called domestic terrorism and it seems like they will look for at least a minimum four year prison sentence from what I’m reading right now
I'm trying to avoid saying what I really want to say, but the non partisan answer is there's bad actors doing horrible things on either side. The fringe ends of either side are doing real damage. I've seen both and it's embarrassing how some think it is ok to act.
There's a proper way to handle a political disagreement. Starting fires and attacking people isn't it.
Exactly once social norms are broken and bad behavior is encouraged it starts coming from all directions as nuts feel validated.
Thats why careful public words, kind fair treatment of others, elimination of vibrato:flagellation:exaggeration is important. Normalize unnecessary punishment, breaking of law and it spreads like a virus making individuals who are completely wrong in their behavior feel fully validated.
Ummmm... its call terrorism. These groups are also funded. This is not political. Destroying someone's property to create fear and attain an objective is terrorism. No politics in here, these acts are not a political disagreement. People are being attacked (or their possessions) by one entity to achieve an outcome. The other side are the victims.
Peoples property are being destroyed in order to create an outcome or fear for the terrorists objective.
I am telling you right now, it will not go on for long. There will be jail for these people. Dont skew it any other way. IN fact, even leave the subject matter out of it and the product name in this case. It doesnt matter. It's terrorism in its purest form.
terrorism, the calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a populationand thereby to bring about a particular political objective.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/terrorism
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+1 Long jail sentences are in order. You can't fix stupid, but you can put stupid in jail.
My brother just bought a Mercedes EQE for 63% off MSRP. It had under 1800 miles on it.
The EV market does not seem to be strengthening.
The EV market does not seem to be strengthening.
I was looking at a brand New Trax base $14,999, and I can quote other examples.
The auto market is destabilizing.
Only if de-escalation starts occurring.
Rule of thumb, you go first, because if not you then who?
A simple fundamental law through human history
has been known as the concept of escalation and is being shown all over the world right now.
If one side escalates an equal or greater level of escalation occurs on the other side ,
If the other side is forced down without a true resolution you get an outcome like WWI becoming WWII
look at the Middle East and Africa to see where constant escalation without a true resolution leads, going on 3000 years of escalation in one region or another.
Peace is a delicate balance and once it’s disrupted it’s extraordinarily difficult to go back as everyone feigns over past wrongs, injustices and anger leading in a feedback loop to more escalation.
We as a country understood this leading to a moderate level of peace for 83 years. We’ve lost our common sense and decency, considering ~80 year cycles of Mass violence and wars spans back thousands of years I guess we still aren’t as smart as we think we are repeating exactly the same historical mistakes en mass that have happened repeatedly in the past, these mistakes always unequivocally lead to destabilization and loss.
Only way out is to loose the us them narratives, don’t worry about feigned attacks against your group, and we then need leaders who will self sacrifice to try to unify between two disparate groups.
Men like ghandi were able to get groups who were murdering each other to at least start talking again and give up platitudes.
Who is our Ghandi? I just don’t see anyone handing out the olive branch and if you need to know who should hand out the olive branch it’s always
You go first and accept it may be thrown back, enough times and it will stick .
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I only see one side. There is no other side to de-escalate.
If I own a product or any legal activity, that is my right. I harm no one I am within the law.
Someone doesnt like that legal product or activity of mine and they firebomb it and all others that own it to pursue an objective. That is terrorism. There can be no escalation on my part. I did nothing wrong, I am a law abiding citizen who has been victimized.
My only hope and recourse is the law enforcement agencies will go after these rouge fractions and charge them. I trust in the law enforcement community that many will be caught and made an example. I know it, and those pop tarts who thought they were invincible will be behind bars. I cant wait to see it happen.
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Myopic? ,
you can temporarily make examples jailing and punishing but
If you are blind and don’t address the true cause of why something is happening it will continue to fester, expand and start happening in different ways whether you accept the reasons or their actions legal or not.
today it’s cars, tomorrow???
And I also believe vandalism is pure ignorance and should be punished but I also know this has nothing to do with cars or vandalism, don’t address the cause and it gets worse.
I understand your point of view.
My point is, if you allow vandalism/terrorism to impinge on your freedom and give into a minority to appease them while ignoring the majority then you are not free. Law and order is key, (as far as I am concerned) break the law, go to jail. These terrorists are a tiny, fraction of a fraction of society supported by wealthy people and rouge actors in other countries. If you give in, you cede control to them.
1) uphold the rule of law
2) Don't be a vigilante
2) Don't be a vigilante
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