There is also a federal law called the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act and it states repair must be made in a reasonable amount of time otherwise the have defaulted on their warranty obligation. If or when it gets to 40 days then it's a lemon based just off loss of use. But I'm entitled to get it repurchased und the federal law for repairs taking so long.
2025 1500 Ram SST Issues
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It doesn't quite qualify for my state lemon law yet as it needs to be 40 days loss of use in Nebraska. The federal law that states warranty repairs must be done in a reasonable amount of time, however, 33 days is excessive for a water pump.
Edit: in 33 days they have not put any replacement parts on the truck. That's a problem in my opinion and is the breach of warranty.
Just out of curiosity, what ever happened with the Chevy that you were planning on buying at the end of the Nissan Frontier thread?
Just couldn't make a deal come together with the Chevy dealership?
I just want to point out We're Metals' foreshadowing in the Nissan Frontier thread.
As you can see in my replies above I had said we tried buying a Colorado from two different dealerships.
The long version is my local Chevy dealership I think the salesman though I was just wasting my time and didn't believe me we had to wait for our lemon law process to finish on the Nissan. I went and talked to him 3 times about options and what we were looking for as they didn't have any models in our price range on their lot and he never answered back until a month later he's asked if I was ready and I told him I already had the Ram at that point.
We then went to a different dealership that had the exact truck we wanted in stock. When we went to buy it we found out it was traded dealer stock from another dealership and it had a fleet invoice instead of a retail invoice. 8 days in a row they made an appointment with us to buy the truck promising to have the invoice issue figured out then calling and saying it wasn't fixed yet. On the 8th day our appointment was early (I think around 1 PM but don't hire a private investigator because I'm not 100% sure on that detail) I work a 90 round trip from my house. I worked a few hours that day, it was September 30th and I took vacation to drive from work to home to pick up my family then we drove most of the way back to near where I work when they called and said they couldn't do it that day either. We turned around and headed home then Ram called and said they had the Ram with the hurricane engine they knew I wanted on sale. We turned around again, we called Chevy and told them we no longer wanted the truck and went and got our current Ram because it was 23k off MSRP so it was cheaper than the Colorado.
The Ram was my #1 truck but my wife wanted a mid size so it got bumped down to 3rd as we both really liked it. When it became evident they had no idea how to sell us a Colorado and we could get a full size truck cheaper we went for it especially since I had already taken off work that day to get a truck and we were closer than if we went home and got it a different day.
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You didn't get a loaner vehicle?!
Wow! Sorry to hear of the troubles on the new truck as well!
Maybe look for a platform that has not changed recently? Seems like the Toyotas have teething problems too. I think you may have dodged (haha) a bullet with the Chevy, as the Colorados and Canyons are having some electrical gremlins too. Have you looked at the Ranger and/or F150?
Maybe look for a platform that has not changed recently? Seems like the Toyotas have teething problems too. I think you may have dodged (haha) a bullet with the Chevy, as the Colorados and Canyons are having some electrical gremlins too. Have you looked at the Ranger and/or F150?
I think the ranger was all new last year too. Nissan has used the same frame in the frontier since 2005 and they forgot to weld mine together so old proven designs don't help either. We had bought a 2019 Toyota Highlander new because it was the last model year before the redesign and it has their 3.5V6 and in 5k miles it blew two engines. It's just my luck. Ram sells 1 lemon for every 800,000 vehicles they sell and they are #1 for initial quality for new vehicles according to JD Power. Our Highlander was the most dependable when we bought it and the Frontier even still is on the list of most reliable (top 3). None of that matters. What eve vehicle I buy will just be defective at this point.
We have had 4 so far actually. They keep giving us old high mileage vehicles that keep breaking.
My local dealer doesn't participate in the Ram loaner program. Every time we break a 2010 Chevrolet Traverse or 2018 Chevrolet Traverse with over 130k miles on them we bring them back and get a different one. They did give us a 2022 Equinox with 38k miles on it but that had electrical failure.
First Toyota Highlander, then Nissan Frontier, then RAM pickup, then Chevy Traverse (x2), then Chevy Equinox. What is the common denominator here? I think you are just vehicle cursed!
J/K...but I'm curious what vehicles(s) have you owned that have been reasonably reliable?
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We had a 2011 Durango Citadel AWD Hemi that we kept for 182k miles before the fuel pump went out. 3 months later they recalled the fuel pump but we already traded it by then. I had a 2015 Dodge Charger we put 42k miles on and sold it for more than I bought it for during COVID. 2019 Honda Insight required no repairs but my wife lost her job when I got home from my second deployment so we sold it for more than we bought it for. 2014 Mitsubishi Mirage was flawless and 2013 Mitsubishi Lancer was flawless. I have a 2020 Kia Rio that has been great so far with 32kiles on it. I commute 90 miles a day so I change frequently. Also the lancer car insurance was $300 a month so we got a Ford focus to save money on gas and insurance but it was a 2016 with a crap transmission. We have had a lot of junk vehicles not a lot of good ones.
So, when the Ram is bought back, what are you going to switch to next?
Or would you consider another Ram, just without the I-6 this time?
Not used to it being a water pump that fails.
Usually hear about the thermostat being what fails in the I-6.
As for the ABS system issues, probably bad assembly that left off a grounding point, or a pinched wire somewhere in the harness that they haven't tried looking for as of yet.
When a major electrical system fails this early in a new vehicle's life, it almost always comes back to a grounding point, or a damaged wiring harness during assembly.
Or would you consider another Ram, just without the I-6 this time?
Not used to it being a water pump that fails.
Usually hear about the thermostat being what fails in the I-6.
As for the ABS system issues, probably bad assembly that left off a grounding point, or a pinched wire somewhere in the harness that they haven't tried looking for as of yet.
When a major electrical system fails this early in a new vehicle's life, it almost always comes back to a grounding point, or a damaged wiring harness during assembly.
If it's bought back I think we're going to try a Toyota Tacoma. They have the best loaner program of any local dealership in my area and they are fast with repairs but it just depends on what deals we can get.
Ram isn't buying it back she said they are just going to fix it under warranty. She said they have the water pump and will replace it next week. I asked her about the brakes and coolant line and she asked me if there were other things wrong. I asked her how she investigated my case for 6 days without knowing the issues and she said they will just ensure everything is fixed before I get it back however long that takes.
UPDATES: I got my truck back yesterday after being broken over 40 days. I took it to work this morning on my highway commute and it consumed 11.26 gallons of gasoline in 43.9 miles at an incredible 3.898 MPG. No hard acceleration driver events, no hard brakes 1 minute of idle time. I think there are still issues.
How was it running? I'd start verifying consumption by hand/at the pump
Would be interesting to see live data. I'd think positive fuel trims would have to be absolutely pegged.
Does it roll and coast ok? Nothing dumb like dragging brakes?
It seems to roll and coast okay. It's Nebraska so it's not like I have mountains to coast down or anything like that. The rotors weren't glowing when I got to work. The app still says ABS and Brakes have failed but no errors on truck dashboard.
I thought iw was running a little rough and thought it was strange but I also thought my opinion could be just because I have had so many issues with the truck so far. The I6 is naturally smooth and quiet so it's hard to tell. Water and oil were normal temps. Transmission never actually got to operating temperature. I'll be driving it a lot this week so I'll manually calculate at the pump and use the same pump. I'll do round trips to and from work to get a better average.
No most cars are garbage. I was stuck in a ford rut for a while. Just a couple highlights. All brand new vehicles.
Ford 150 w/t w/ 5 speed MT: transmission not bolted to engine, fuel line bracket not attached to transmission flange and chafing, input shaft/pressure plate binding up, clutch pedal stuck to floor.
Ford Ranger w/t: Transmission and exhaust mid pipe bracket and crossmember not bolted to frame, fell off pass side and was dragging on pavement - day one on the way home after purchase. Driveshaft imbalance, Rear springs not properly tempered, sagging.
Ford F350 w/t Navistar Diesel injector failure (bosch?) Sheetmetal clamshell DP overheat/ aftreatment failure.
Ford Ranger - Front of cab not bolted to frame at front left and front right. Waste spark Ignition problems, rough running, low power.
Dodge Pickup. Magnum v8 Thermostat/ WP issue: engine overheating,pinging/knocking. No hot water flow to RAD. 4WD engagement binding /sticking. Fuel tank purge valve/ vent hoses never connected to canister (I found that day one on walk around and look about - easy repair).
I could go on for days.
A lot of these were union assembler issues. Must have been some potent Ganja going around those years
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I agree. All I know is it consumed about half a tank of fuel, that's pretty close to what the app states and I thought it may be running slightly rough. I also thought was in my head just because of the poor experience this far into ownership of this truck. I'm hoping it's just bad fuel since it took them 40 days to repair the truck and once I urn up the old stuff and get fresh fuel it will do better
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