2022 Corolla Cross HPL PP 0W8 16,723 Miles
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Nice!
It’s pretty easy to find 0w16. Easily found online and I’ve see it anywhere there is oil. But never seen 0w8 - where the heck do you get it?
It’s pretty easy to find 0w16. Easily found online and I’ve see it anywhere there is oil. But never seen 0w8 - where the heck do you get it?
Cool.
It ain’t cheap. But if it can go that long I guess it doesn’t really need to be.
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I am blown away by this UOA! I doubt a single API SP licensed ILSAC 6A or 6B motor oil has a starting TBN greater than 8.5. The HPL PP PCMO has a TBN of 9.29 after nearly 17K miles.
I purchased the 0W-20 version of this oil and the driveline fluids for our Jeep and posted my initial reaction after receiving my packages here: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...ited-ups-just-dropped-off-the-packages.355350.
Yes, I still had a few questions. I was expecting good oil, in line with other performance lubricants. I wanted to make sure that it was good stuff. I never expected it to be this good! The Jeep is a brand new vehicle, and it's been my wife's dream car forever, and now we finally got it. The UOA just blew me away and got me all fired up. Due to work, I did not have time to change fluids, and the Jeep had just passed 1100 miles. However, I will do so ASAP and post about it when I do.
I have never spoken to a lubricant manufacturer as open to discussing their products as @High Performance Lubricants. I am glad I have found them. They are awesome.HPL is really impressive.
Thanks to Dave at HPL for being so open and transparent too with regard to oil questions about the brand.
Yes, they are. How is your fuel mileage in the Corolla on HPL PP 0W-8? We got a 2020 Sonata that gets 44 highway / 28 city MPG on 0W-20. It will get HPL pretty soon.
MPG is a little better than EPA 35+ mpg.
I am doing everything normal now. There is no effort at hypermiling. No Stage 1 chip. No 91 octane. Little Top Tier fuel useage. No elevated tire pressure. Aftermarket wheels are about the same weight as factory wheels. 75 mph highway.
I hope your Jeep and HPL serve you and yours well.
As always YMMV and caveat emptor.
Are we witnessing the birth of a new type of adpack here? Some kind of anti wear based on sulfur containing silicon compound may be? Other analysis by @Direct_Rejection with a different car but on the same oil show nearly the same Silicon/Sulfur values. Modern oil for a modern car indeed calls for modern technology but on the other hand, does sulfur making a comeback can really be considered as new tech? 
And why wouldn't an abnormal "contamination" induce some abnormal "wear"? Wear numbers shown here are ridiculously low for such mileage.
And why wouldn't an abnormal "contamination" induce some abnormal "wear"? Wear numbers shown here are ridiculously low for such mileage.
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Pretty well. However, if you want to do extended drains regularly, I would do an oil analysis every 5K miles to establish how far you should push it. It also depends on how badly your TGDI engine fuel dilutes the engine oil.I wonder how HPL would handle a small TGDI engine for extended interval
I see 0w8 with extended drain interval, the result is excellent consider vehicle still in break in period.
Because you do not understand what a UOA shows and what it does not show, nor how the machinery works which produces the analysis.
Assuredly, there was no stabbing around in the dark here.
I have 200k miles of experience with this engine.
With this exact product, OCIs have been gradually extended.
Fair enough, i'm here to learn anyway. I just wanted to ask if a "Silicon value" that high was normal for an engine with 19k miles.
I understand your confidence in such a great lube manufacturer but what about your warranty and the 10k OCI that Toyota recommends?
As the driving conditions here have proven to be favorable, no warranty claims are anticipated at all. My confidence in HPL grows. Let's see how the future UOAs look.
The silicon result is likely a combination of a few things. 1, defoamer which will make up under 10 ppm. 2, would be a combination of actual dirt (based on good wear rates I would suspect this to be relatively low) and likely the largest part would be material leaching from sealants being a new vehicle. There is not a raw material other than the defoamer showing up here. What will likely happen is the silicon on future sample data will fall off to eventually be a combination of a little defoamer and actual dirt. This is certainly one of the reasons trends are so important on UOA.
We do light oils pretty well. I have no reason to expect anything other than this serving Direct_Rejection well.
David
Many thanks for all the first-hand informations.
Based on the mileage and the very good wear rates, i wrongly assumed the use of a tech involving some silicon wizardry. After all, and as seen on some recents threads, you do have some highly qualified and devoted chem techs behind your product line and undoubtedly the finest base oils and raw materials right at your disposal.
