2020 Ram 1500 5.7 eTorque, HPL Euro No VII 5W-20, 5062 miles

[cammyfive79]

I don't have the knowledge chops to comment on the numbers and specifics but it seems to my lay eye that if a top tier oil like HPL Euro No VII is not able to stretch out to much beyond 5K OCI that I fear for the poor owners who "just follow what the dash says" and run twice that length with a much cheaper alternative.

I love Ram trucks (my late father worked for Chrysler for almost 40 years so we had almost every iteration of the older body styles over the years) but it seems the V8 etorques are hard on oil. I haven't really looked too hard but are there very high mileage examples out there that are still holding up well?

*Again, this is my lay person/casual reader here observation

 

[The Critic]

ROI

If my only goal was ROI, I would use conventional 5W20 (on-sale) and change it per the OLM.

 

[OVERKILL]

I don't have the knowledge chops to comment on the numbers and specifics but it seems to my lay eye that if a top tier oil like HPL Euro No VII is not able to stretch out to much beyond 5K OCI that I fear for the poor owners who "just follow what the dash says" and run twice that length with a much cheaper alternative.

I love Ram trucks (my late father worked for Chrysler for almost 40 years so we had almost every iteration of the older body styles over the years) but it seems the V8 etorques are hard on oil. I haven't really looked too hard but are there very high mileage examples out there that are still holding up well?

*Again, this is my lay person/casual reader here observation

Other than the oxidative thickening, the oil still had massive amounts of TBN left and was quite serviceable. This report doesn't lead me to view this engine as being "hard on oil", quite the opposite, as it doesn't fuel dilute.

 

[cammyfive79]

Other than the oxidative thickening, the oil still had massive amounts of TBN left and was quite serviceable. This report doesn't lead me to view this engine as being "hard on oil", quite the opposite, as it doesn't fuel dilute.

Thanks for the explanation.

 

[Reloader59]

A lot of iron, copper and nickel for 5k miles. 34k miles should show low amounts of wear. Something bad going on in this engine.

 

[The Critic]

A lot of iron, copper and nickel for 5k miles. 34k miles should show low amounts of wear. Something bad going on in this engine.

Compare this report to other HEMI UOA’s and you will find this to be the typical wear pattern.

 

[wwillson]

A lot of iron, copper and nickel for 5k miles. 34k miles should show low amounts of wear. Something bad going on in this engine.

No, nothing is going bad in this engine. The Fe is somewhere between 4-5ppm/1k miles, which is normal. Ignore the Cu, as the Pentastar will always show copper. Nickel is probably a lab error, but it didn't come from this engine.

 

[OVERKILL]

Compare this report to other HEMI UOA’s and you will find this to be the typical wear pattern.

Yup. This is the problem with UOA's, people don't know how to read them.

 

[Plumb Bob]

Other than the oxidative thickening, the oil still had massive amounts of TBN left and was quite serviceable. This report doesn't lead me to view this engine as being "hard on oil", quite the opposite, as it doesn't fuel dilute.

In my limited experience with mine, and from what I've read on here and other places, I have maintained that the Hemi is "easy on oil". Occasionally, you'll see some users complain about the "high" Fe numbers, but when you look at the whole picture, those numbers fall within normality. Fuel dilution seems to be a non-issue as well.