2016 Nissan Titan XD

[Phishin]

My brother is a professional fishing guide. He has 2-3 clients in his boat 250+ days a year.

The reason I'm telling you this is, he is finalizing a deal with Nissan to drive their new 2016 Titan XD. According to my brother, Nissan gives him a new XD every year (I'm not sure for how many years this contract is for), and also provides insurance and plates for the truck. He just keep fuel and DEF in it. In return, every year 500+ men will sit in his truck (guys that can afford $500/day to go fishing) and lots of people will see him towing his boat around town and at the gas stations filling up, at the boat ramp/launch, etc. etc. This is a great deal for my brother, who currently has a 2012 Chevy Silverado with the 6.2L gas engine in it.

With a 5.0L turbo-charged Cummins under the hood (approx. 300HP and 550 ft-lbs torque), and a 12,000 lbs. tow capacity, this is a heavy duty half-ton truck. He needs a strong truck to pull his 22' boat around the Detroit-metro area, as he is often merging onto the freeway.

I'm excited to check it out, and see how it tows!!

 

[KGMtech]

What a deal! I wonder how many new Nissans have been sold from seat time in his trucks?

 

[Phishin]

Originally Posted By: KGMtech
What a deal! I wonder how many new Nissans have been sold from seat time in his trucks?


None yet. He won't take delivery of his first one for at least a few more weeks.

 

[skyactiv]

Actually the HP is rated 310 and it has 555 pounds of torque. Awesome truck. I hope it sells like hotcakes.

 

[Kuato]

Sounds like a win for your brother's operation! Well done.

I hope they changed the ergonomics of the cabin, I checked out the previous generation prior to buying, and it was simply uncomfortable.

 

[OneEyeJack]

Not having a payment will help to offset the fuel mileage if it's anything like the 2015's.

 

[Nick1994]

I'm not a Nissan fan, but that is one nice truck.

 

[JHZR2]

That's a nice rating for a useful truck. Not a tractor trailer wannabe or an untrained person handling 20k lbs on the public roads. Too bad its not in a domestic, but kudos to Nissan for making this happen. Post pics when he gets it!

 

[CKN]

Sat in one at the Utah auto show over the weekend. It's a nice truck. I don't know if it's an answer to an issue that isn't there. It's also over $50,000.00.

If your a weekend tower and want a little more power you opt for the 6.0 liter gas in the Silverado.

If you really tow heavy you buy a 2500 or better.

The styling is derivative at best.

 

[Phishin]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Too bad its not in a domestic, but kudos to Nissan for making this happen. Post pics when he gets it!

I think they are trying as hard as they can to get 'mericans to look past the Nissan badge and see this as a "domestic". That's why they are letting a lot of "tough rednecks" like my brother drive them around for free.

 

[Danno]

A couple of interesting videos from the boys at TFL.

http://www.tfltruck.com/2015/12/nissan-titan-xd-highway-mpg-numbers-video/

http://www.tfltruck.com/2016/01/2016-nis...ing-test-video/

 

[DoubleWasp]

You definitely can't complain about that. He's getting one heck of a deal.

When I first heard about a Cummins diesel in a Titan, I was kind of excited, but as more specs have come out not so much. The 3/4 ton price, weight, fuel economy, and almost all of its size is there, but hauling performance is not.

The hard thing about slotting between two categories is that many times, the consumers just end up falling on either side of the new line.

Always nice to see a new diesel offering though.

 

[hattaresguy]

Meh just another $50k truck, don't have enough of those already.

The towing capacity is largely [censored], you can't tow 12k pounds with any kind of tongue weight and carry you know people and gear. TFL ran into this.

Looks to me real world towing, with real world stuff that people carry is probably closer to half of that.

I wish all of the truck manufactures would stop posting these [censored] towing numbers.

 

[CKN]

Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Meh just another $50k truck, don't have enough of those already.

The towing capacity is largely [censored], you can't tow 12k pounds with any kind of tongue weight and carry you know people and gear. TFL ran into this.

Looks to me real world towing, with real world stuff that people carry is probably closer to half of that.

I wish all of the truck manufactures would stop posting these [censored] towing numbers.



Couldn't agree more. The towing numbers without the payload numbers are completely useless.

 

[artificialist]

Originally Posted By: Phishin
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Too bad its not in a domestic, but kudos to Nissan for making this happen. Post pics when he gets it!

I think they are trying as hard as they can to get 'mericans to look past the Nissan badge and see this as a "domestic". That's why they are letting a lot of "tough rednecks" like my brother drive them around for free.

Nissan has been making trucks in the USA since around the time they had both Nissan and Datsun emblems on their pickup trucks.

I just have to wonder how long the newer trucks are going to last. The 1986.5 Hardbody and 1997 Frontier were really long lasting, but I had little experience with later Frontiers and with any Titan.

 

[supton]

Originally Posted By: CKN
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Meh just another $50k truck, don't have enough of those already.

The towing capacity is largely [censored], you can't tow 12k pounds with any kind of tongue weight and carry you know people and gear. TFL ran into this.

Looks to me real world towing, with real world stuff that people carry is probably closer to half of that.

I wish all of the truck manufactures would stop posting these [censored] towing numbers.



Couldn't agree more. The towing numbers without the payload numbers are completely useless.


+1. As much as I like my Toyota, and how they jumped onto coming up with a spec for towing, I couldn't find a GCWR for my truck listed in plain text.

 

[CKN]

Most guys who buy half-ton trucks to tow the occasional boat/travel trailer are not educated on payload numbers. It even happens here on BITOG when guys chime in about what truck can tow how much weight and the payload equation is never mentioned.

Generally-many half-ton truck owners make poor choices when matching up a travel trailer to a half-ton truck. They get a trailer in excess of 30feet-and over 80% of their towing capacity. They load up the wife, three kids,dog, ice chests, bikes, easy-ups, grill and then wonder why they don't have the power to make it up the smallest of inclines. They are obviously over payload or right up against it.

Some of them even add 35" tires and that really makes the problem worse.

 

[hattaresguy]

Yep, they don't tell you to tow that max you need to be in a totally empty truck.

TFL ran into it with the Nissan, even by taking weight off the tongue they still had to leave one person behind to stay legal.


The problem with the Nissan is it has the HP, it just doesn't have the suspension that a 3/4 or 1 ton truck has to carry the weight. That's the story of the modern half ton in general, enough juice just not enough under the truck.

Ram claims my 1500 with the Hemi can tow something like 10k pounds, [censored]. Real world my trucks towing capacity with stuff like people and gear is 4k-6k pounds. Mine is actually higher than most because I have a light half ton.

 

[itguy08]

It's all buyer beware with ALL the trucks, not the 1/2 tons. Often you need a Max Tow or Max Payload package to get the advertised numbers. Sometimes it's with a 2wd base regular cab model, sometimes it's not. You do have to do your homework.

We have the Max Tow F150 super crew. 1800 lbs of payload. 11,300 lbs tow capacity. 10% of 11,300 is 1130 lbs. That leaves 670 lbs of payload for passengers and gear. Not a whole lot but for some it's fine (us as its wife and I + dog and all junk goes in the camper).
We pull a 35' Open Range 272RLS with ours and at a hair under 9k GVWR the truck does fine. Put 2000 miles on it this year and didn't feel unsafe in the mountains of PA or down to NC.

Don't think just because you have a 250/2500 you can pull awesome loads either. Spec out a 4x4, Crew, Diesel 250/2500 and you will end up with less payload than a max tow F150!

No matter what truck you buy you need to match the capabilities to that particular vehicle!

 

[Phishin]

Originally Posted By: itguy08
It's all buyer beware with ALL the trucks, not the 1/2 tons. Often you need a Max Tow or Max Payload package to get the advertised numbers. Sometimes it's with a 2wd base regular cab model, sometimes it's not. You do have to do your homework.

We have the Max Tow F150 super crew. 1800 lbs of payload. 11,300 lbs tow capacity. 10% of 11,300 is 1130 lbs. That leaves 670 lbs of payload for passengers and gear. Not a whole lot but for some it's fine (us as its wife and I + dog and all junk goes in the camper).
We pull a 35' Open Range 272RLS with ours and at a hair under 9k GVWR the truck does fine. Put 2000 miles on it this year and didn't feel unsafe in the mountains of PA or down to NC.

Don't think just because you have a 250/2500 you can pull awesome loads either. Spec out a 4x4, Crew, Diesel 250/2500 and you will end up with less payload than a max tow F150!

No matter what truck you buy you need to match the capabilities to that particular vehicle!


Great Post itguy08.

My brother is simply towing his 22' fishing boat. Fully loaded, the boat and trailer should be between 5000-6000 pounds. This should be a great truck for this type of towing. Plus, he gets the added fuel mileage of the diesel vs. the gasoline. He drives around 40k miles a year.