2016 Nissan Titan XD

[Hokiefyd]

Originally Posted By: IndyIan
I guess the Frontier gets closer to the old truck size but probably is still much bigger.


Yes, it still is larger as you noted. And cheaper. Nissan's interior quality took a DECIDED downturn with the '98 Frontier. The '96 and '97 Hardbody trucks are about as good as it got for small truck interiors, in my opinion. Quality materials, quality construction, very ergonomic. The '94s and '95s were the same, but without a very nice center console that the '96s and '97s had. Great little trucks with great interiors.

The Frontier changed all of it; everything was reduced to very cheap-LOOKING and cheap-FEELING hard plastic. Nissan truck fans felt very let-down by the then-new Frontier. For a while there, I thought Nissan had a very competitive product. Their cars were good (first generation Altima, mid-90s Maxima, Z cars, etc), their powertrains were good, their chassis were good...it was all good.

I think many blame their alliance with the French in 1999 as the beginning of the downturn, but some of their product in the pipelines or even in showrooms was already souring (like the Frontier, second-gen Altima in '98, etc).

 

[dustyroads]

Originally Posted By: Nate1979
Originally Posted By: dustyroads
Will this XD model be too "heavy duty" for an EPA fuel economy rating or will it get rated? If it is rated, will be curious to see what it does.

Thanks panthermike for all these vehicle threads you put up!


Likely it will be exempt.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2015/01/2016-nissan-titan-xd-who-is-it-for.html



I see. The author of that article said they hope Nissan takes the high road and tests/publishes EPA ratings. I can't imagine them doing so if the GVW is high enough that they are exempt. I doubt the numbers would be impressive, but anxious to hear what people get once these trucks hit the road.

 

[Bud_One]

Poor truck....the grille looks like the offspring of a GMC/Ford relationship.

 

[CKN]

Everybody I know who buys a diesel does it for towing capacity....not fuel economy.

 

[cptbarkey]

Originally Posted By: CKN
Everybody I know who buys a diesel does it for towing capacity....not fuel economy.


let me open you to the wide world of texas, where if you do not own a truck, you die a horrible fiery death because the other truck crumpled your leaf like can.

 

[Nick1994]

Originally Posted By: CKN
Everybody I know who buys a diesel does it for towing capacity....not fuel economy.
What about me? Lol

 

[CKN]

Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: CKN
Everybody I know who buys a diesel does it for towing capacity....not fuel economy.
What about me? Lol



For what these things cost these days they make expensive grocery getters....

Is that what your inferring?

 

[Lolvoguy]

Needs a bigger grill with more chrome

 

[SwampSurvivor]

I think they won the "Ugly truck" award.

 

[supton]

Not really a fan. Looks like the rest of the field. Too large, or perhaps desired to look large, too dressed up.

 

[Nick1994]

Originally Posted By: CKN
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: CKN
Everybody I know who buys a diesel does it for towing capacity....not fuel economy.
What about me? Lol



For what these things cost these days they make expensive grocery getters....

Is that what your inferring?
I was talking about VW diesels.

 

[jeepman3071]

Dang. They keep making new trucks uglier every year. The only truck I think looks decent these days is the Ram, and even some of those have more chrome than a '57 Chevy.

 

[Nate1979]

Everybody has different likes and dislikes on how a truck looks. I think the new Titan looks good whereas I think the Ram is very ugly. Go figure.

I think Nissan did good. They are going to try and find a niche because they know they can't compete with the big 3 in the typical 1/2, 3/4 and 1 ton category. Over on pickuptrucks.com I've never seen so many positive comments about a Titan in all my years reading that site. There are a lot of people that would be interested in a 1500 HD category. Many people need a good towing truck but don't want to pay the premium for a 3/4 ton truck, especially where the diesels are way too big for what many need. They won't try to sell as many as the big 3 but I'm sure that this unique offering will at least get many people to take a second look at a truck that was slowly dying.

 

[mcrn]

I wonder how cheap you will be able to get a current Titan when this thing comes out.?

 

[01rangerxl]

Originally Posted By: Mykl
A forum post I read elsewhere said it best....

It looks like China tried to copy the F-150.


It reminds me of a Chinese manufacturer's interpretation of an "American truck" too. Over-stylized chrome grille and huge, crazy looking head lights.

But, it's actually pretty modest compared to how the first gen Titan looked in 2004.

Another poster mentioned that the roof line could indicate a restyled Ram. It does look similar. I know Nissan had been in talks with Chrysler about rebadging the Ram as a Titan, but I think that was before the Fiat takeover. It would be interesting to know the lineage of this truck. It looks like it could be a heavily reworked continuation of the Alpha-platform Titan, but it may be a heavily re-skinned Ram too. The rear end shot doesn't show enough detail to see what the rear suspension setup is, but it looks like it may use coil springs.

 

[CKN]

Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: CKN
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: CKN
Everybody I know who buys a diesel does it for towing capacity....not fuel economy.
What about me? Lol



For what these things cost these days they make expensive grocery getters....

Is that what your inferring?
I was talking about VW diesels.


Excuse me....I thought we were talking in the context of trucks.

 

[wirelessF]

If this truck came out earlier, the last gen F150 would've been uglier. lol XDDDDDDDD!!11!one!!!

 

[artificialist]

Some fleets buy diesel engines because they usually outlive gasoline engines.

That in mind, some diesels die prematurely from bad design.

 

[dustyroads]

Uh oh...i think it's looking better to me all the time. I could see myself getting a black one in a more modest looking model.

I'm curious about the gasoline offerings as well, maybe they'll have the hp/torque cranked up to a more competitive level.

 

[ryansride2017]

I'll be in the market for a truck within the next 2 years and I will take a look at the Titan, but not the XD model. This is the marketing track Nissan had to take with this engine combination. They couldn't put it up against the 3.0 diesel from Ram because it won't compare favorably in MPG. I'll be interested in what the regular Titan models look like. The exterior of the truck is okay...just brings it up to industry standards. Now if Nissan doesn't upgrade the Titan again for another 12 model years...this thing is going to look old quick. I just wish they could have engineered a few more curves on the front end....like the Colorado. The new Colorado has the finest lines on a new pickup going today....although I won't be shopping in that class.