2015 Jeep GC Turbo Diesel HELP!

[JeffKeryk]

My friend Debbie gorgeous 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Turbo Diesel was running fine, then yesterday morning srarted but had little power to move. Fuel delivery problem? She just drove it home from Clearlake, about 200 miles with no problem.

Here is the reply from the local Chrysler dealership where she bought the GC:

We got your Grand Cherokee checked out. It turns out that the fuel system is contaminated with something other than diesel fuel. The only way to fix this issue is to drain/clean the fuel tank and replace all the fuel system components. Injectors, fuel pumps, filters, and some of the lines will need to be replaced to fix this issue. The total cost for this repair is $13,602. Also, a couple of the parts are on backorder and will take several weeks to get. I wish I had better news for you.

I advised her to get another opinion. The dealer estimate is more than current blue book. Any guidance is appreciated!

 

[JHZR2]

I’m sure they’d love to change every single thing. It doesn’t seem like they have objective evidence that every single thing is damaged though.

Is it true? Contaminated fuel? Whose fault?

If there is bad fuel the tank definitely needs to get drained, same for lines, filters replaced, etc. much of the system then could be bled without injecting a drop more of bad fuel. Only then would one really know.

What engine?

 

[JeffKeryk]

I’m sure they’d love to change every single thing. It doesn’t seem like they have objective evidence that every single thing is damaged though.

Is it true? Contaminated fuel? Whose fault?

If there is bad fuel the tank definitely needs to get drained, same for lines, filters replaced, etc. much of the system then could be bled without injecting a drop more of bad fuel. Only then would one really know.

What engine?

It's the 3.0L V6 EcoDiesel
I think that's the only diesel offered in the GC that year; not sure.

I agree the dealership wants to change everything, which is a key reason I strongly suggested she look elsewhere. I just don't dea with those vehicles so I don't know any good shops around here. I will make some calls tomorrow.

 

[clinebarger]

Drain the tank, Change the fuel filter & add fresh diesel.....Unless there's proof the high pressure pump has already failed (Metal on the pressure regulator/volume control solenoid?)

 

[JavierH19]

I'd just drain the tank and change the filter and if it runs good baby it to the nearest dealer lot to dump it asap. Those engines are a disaster. The grand cherokee is small the 5.7 is plenty for it and the 3.6 is sufficient. Don't see the need for a diesel, It's not a towing beast with it either.

 

[edyvw]

My friend Debbie gorgeous 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Turbo Diesel was running fine, then yesterday morning srarted but had little power to move. Fuel delivery problem? She just drove it home from Clearlake, about 200 miles with no problem.

Here is the reply from the local Chrysler dealership where she bought the GC:

We got your Grand Cherokee checked out. It turns out that the fuel system is contaminated with something other than diesel fuel. The only way to fix this issue is to drain/clean the fuel tank and replace all the fuel system components. Injectors, fuel pumps, filters, and some of the lines will need to be replaced to fix this issue. The total cost for this repair is $13,602. Also, a couple of the parts are on backorder and will take several weeks to get. I wish I had better news for you.

I advised her to get another opinion. The dealer estimate is more than current blue book. Any guidance is appreciated!

Translation: "We have no clue, nor do we plan to investigate details; we will just throw parts at the problem, hoping we will hit the target."

Find reputable diesel shop, preferably mom and pop shop.

 

[AZjeff]

My boss put 12 gallons of gas in a Duramax truck with a 26 gal tank then drove it 60 miles back to the shop and said it wasn't running right. Took it to the Chevy garage where they said it had gas in it. They wanted to through the catalog at it too. They were instructed to drain the tank and change the fuel filter and we'll see what happens. It ran perfectly for years with no failed parts due to the gasoline. The doom and gloom was the fuel pump was shot, the injectors shot, on and on. Nope.

I'd have the tank drained, lines blown out maybe, and fuel filter and see what happens. If you believed everything you read about gas in a diesel that Duramax should have been destroyed but it wasn't.

 

[clinebarger]

Don't lollygag around either.....If water is present, It needs to get back running on diesel as soon as possible!!!!

 

[Donald]

They probably drained the fuel filter and found dirt and/or water. So the question is did any bad fuel get past the fuel filter to the HPFP.

The next question is what HPFP is in the Jeep? If it's a CP4 and dirt or maybe even water got to the CP4 then it can start to grenade itself as it's lubricated by the fuel. It sends bits of metal as it grenades itself to the injectors and back to the fuel tank.

If the HPFP is a CP4 ask if it was disassembled and were any of its internal parts damaged?

I had the CP4 HPFP on my 2015b PSD upgraded to another design HPFP so if it gets bad fuel it will not grenade itself. Not a cheap upgrade.

I have my original CP4 I can give you a deal on. It's used but undamaged by bad fuel.

The $13K is about the price one needs to pay for the work needed when a CP4 grenades

As around at NAPA or trusted Indy shops and you may find someone who works as an Indy who is a small truck diesel engine expert.

 

[Marcozi]

Translation: "We have no clue, nor do we plan to investigate details; we will just throw parts at the problem, hoping we will hit the target."

Find reputable diesel shop, preferably mom and pop shop.

Parts shotgun!

 

[JeffKeryk]

I'd just drain the tank and change the filter and if it runs good baby it to the nearest dealer lot to dump it asap. Those engines are a disaster. The grand cherokee is small the 5.7 is plenty for it and the 3.6 is sufficient. Don't see the need for a diesel, It's not a towing beast with it either.

Yeah, the EcoDiesel is not Chrysler's best effort; that's about as nice as I can put it. That's well documented. I advised Debbie to change the oil with Rotella 15w40 every 5K. It was originally spec'ed for 5w30 I believe.
Has about 140K on the clock.

 

[Big E]

Translation: "We have no clue, nor do we plan to investigate details; we will just throw parts at the problem, hoping we will hit the target."

You forgot to add "and make many $$$ while we're at it."

 

[D60]

So allegedly with the 6.7 diesel Ford said if anything other than diesel was present (presumably gas) and the key was turned to ON and not even to START, you had to replace everything.

It sounds like Jeep perhaps has similar guidance.

I'm not saying it's right, merely that the dealer may just be going by the "letter of the law"

 

[SC Maintenance]

Fire the parts cannon, make monthly sales goal!

First question, what is in the diesel, and how was that determined. Water is different than gas, fore example.

But yes, as others have said, drain everything, change the filters, trouble shoot from there. I bet worst case is the pump and injectors, but probably not even those.

I wonder if there is any recourse when she is done with wheverever she last filled up. Clearly there liable. Proving it is another matter.

 

[JeffKeryk]

Fire the parts cannon, make monthly sales goal!

First question, what is in the diesel, and how was that determined. Water is different than gas, fore example.

But yes, as others have said, drain everything, change the filters, trouble shoot from there. I bet worst case is the pump and injectors, but probably not even those.

I wonder if there is any recourse when she is done with wheverever she last filled up. Clearly there liable. Proving it is another matter.

They drove 200 miles since the last fill up. But yes, what and how are very good questions.

 

[edhackett]

Has about 140K on the clock.

Has the CP4 pump been replaced under the recall?

Ed

 

[6.7 CTD]

Sample fuel, if it’s water (not gas), call the auto insurance company and let them battle it out with the station she filled up at last. I’m also fairly sure insurance will cover the error of putting gas in a diesel vehicle, despite it typically being a costly error. Dependent upon the type of coverage one has, of course.

 

[GSCJR]

My boss put 12 gallons of gas in a Duramax truck with a 26 gal tank then drove it 60 miles back to the shop and said it wasn't running right. Took it to the Chevy garage where they said it had gas in it. They wanted to through the catalog at it too.

The outlaws did this while travelling through SC. A Benz dealer there took them for thousands on their BlueTEC, plus a rental car and a couple of days at a hotel, while the dealer waited for parts. Need less to say, buying a diesel to save money resulted in the opposite.

 

[The Critic]

I'm not saying it's right, merely that the dealer may just be going by the "letter of the law"

And/or, let's hope this estimate totals the vehicle, because it'd be one less 3.0L Ecodiesel on the road...

 

[JeffKeryk]

And/or, let's hope this estimate totals the vehicle, because it'd be one less 3.0L Ecodiesel on the road...

Apparantly that was also the dealer's comment as the quote is higher than the blue book. Dunno if their insurance covers it...