2013 Kia Sportage engine quit

I agree with others that starter should still try to do something, even if that is just clicking.
On my sister's 2009 Hyundai Genesis the V8 also died on highway. Now all lights on dashboard come on, but nothing else happens. Turns out the ECU fried itself. Hyundai kept the car hostage for a few weeks until finally admitting that a replacement ECU has been discontinued and is not available anywhere on the planet. Exploring other options now. Under 130k miles. Insurance refused to mechanically total the car, despite no replacement parts for repair being available.
 
Insurance refused to mechanically total the car, despite no replacement parts for repair being available.

Why would you expect your insurance company to cover a car that had an electrical parts failure?
You didn't have an accident, and you didn't make a mistake while working on the car, so why would you even attempt to file a claim?
 
Why would you expect your insurance company to cover a car that had an electrical parts failure?
You didn't have an accident, and you didn't make a mistake while working on the car, so why would you even attempt to file a claim?
Because a service advisor at another dealership did mention that in past they did have to mechanically total a car through insurance. After checking with our insurance it was confirmed that while this option is legit, it does require the vehicle to be separately covered for it. So it's like an add-on option when selecting insurance coverage. And it DOES mechanically total a vehicle if "it cannot be repaired safely or cannot be repaired at all". In this case, through the dealership, it "cannot be repaired at all", due to lack of parts being available.
 
Because a service advisor at another dealership did mention that in past they did have to mechanically total a car through insurance. After checking with our insurance it was confirmed that while this option is legit, it does require the vehicle to be separately covered for it. So it's like an add-on option when selecting insurance coverage. And it DOES mechanically total a vehicle if "it cannot be repaired safely or cannot be repaired at all". In this case, through the dealership, it "cannot be repaired at all", due to lack of parts being available.
Wow news to me. I still think the lack of repair or parts availability has to be caused by an auto casualty claim such as being in an accident. Insurance companies could care less about ownership mechanical difficulties. If its an add-on then its 3rd party covering mechanical failures sounds like some LL cool j repair shield junk. Ecu is not a safety part I don't see it being a valid claim by the (NHTSA). Now If the ecu failed due to an emissions issue there's chance to be covered.
 
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Wow news to me. I still think the lack of repair or parts availability has to be caused by an auto casualty claim such as being in an accident. Insurance companies could care less about ownership mechanical difficulties. If its an add-on then its 3rd party covering mechanical failures sounds like some LL cool j repair shield junk. Ecu is not a safety part I don't see it being a valid claim by the (NHTSA).
The "repaired safely" doesn't imply that ECU is a safety part. It simply means that replacing it is a safe repair, but twisting some wires together in a wire nut to bypass something and making the ECU work is not a safe repair. Just a rough example.
 
GOOD NEWS- I was just informed today that Kia Corporate has authorized a new engine replacement. The new engine is in L.A, and it will be shipped to my Kia dealer and the Sportage should be ready for me by Dec 6th. This is a big relief for us. We are giving the vehicle to our granddaughter who just started Nursing school. She currently is driving an '08 Chevy with a salvage title. She has a buyer for it as soon as the Sportage is transferred to her.
My thanks to Sands Kia in Surprise Az for all of their help.
Thanks to all of you that responded to my post.
 
The "repaired safely" doesn't imply that ECU is a safety part. It simply means that replacing it is a safe repair, but twisting some wires together in a wire nut to bypass something and making the ECU work is not a safe repair. Just a rough example.
What is the part number on the original engine control module? There are 5 options for the sedan with V8. Theres lots of those 5 part numbers out there used, and contrary to what the dealer says a used one can definitely be made to work, just takes tooling that a dealership isnt going to have.
 
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