2012 Honda Odyssey 20,038 oci. 244,452 mi. m1 0w40

[The Critic]

Looks pretty similar to mine:

2016 MB E350, Mobil 1 0W40, 18,092 miles

Oil was in use for 11 months. Mostly highway miles. OEM interval is 1/10K. Polaris ran this sample twice due to my concerns about the additive levels. However, the CA, P and Z levels remain unusually high for M1 0W40; not sure what's going on. I personally installed this oil and took the...

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[Hall]

Wow that TBN is impressive for a non extended protection oil.

They added 2 quarts of fresh, new oil so the TBN isn't valid for an actual 20k interval.

 

[Tachyon]

Even with two quarts of makeup oil, which is understandable given the age and mileage of the vehicle, the results are beyond impressive.

As I see it, there isn't a single good reason to spend money on overpriced and overhyped boutique oils.

Just my 0.02¢.

 

[addyguy]

Impressive, not the vehicle that usually takes well to extended OCI’s and being run low on oil!

 

[scotty.honda.dog]

Thanks for posting, interesting to me owning a 11 Ody with 211k miles. Why using the 0w40 instead of 0w20 Honda spec oil?

Just noticed the 2 quarts burned per OCI…How many spark plugs does he get per oil change? Being funny, but wondering given this engines reputation for fouling plugs without VCM disabled… (been through that with our 11 Ody and disabling VCM fixed the issue for at least 50k miles)

 

[The Critic]

Thanks for posting, interesting to me owning a 11 Ody with 211k miles. Why using the 0w40 instead of 0w20 Honda spec oil?

Just noticed the 2 quarts burned per OCI…How many spark plugs does he get per oil change? Being funny, but wondering given this engines reputation for fouling plugs without VCM disabled… (been through that with our 11 Ody and disabling VCM fixed the issue for at least 50k miles)

3.5 qt for 20K is actually pretty **** good for a J35 VCM engine from that era. Usually those drink a quart every 1-3K by this time, if not more.

 

[mt23]

Thanks for posting, interesting to me owning a 11 Ody with 211k miles. Why using the 0w40 instead of 0w20 Honda spec oil?

Just noticed the 2 quarts burned per OCI…How many spark plugs does he get per oil change? Being funny, but wondering given this engines reputation for fouling plugs without VCM disabled… (been through that with our 11 Ody and disabling VCM fixed the issue for at least 50k miles)

Saw your uoa posted the other day. Impressive especially zero top off!

I've been using m1 0w40 because of its reputation for slow cleaning. This van had some really dark thick varnish visible through the oil fill. The viscosity doesnt matter to me as much as the slow cleaning over time. This van would be ideal for HPL if it wasnt as rusty as it is. I changed the original spark plugs at 200k actually and they looked decent

 

[scotty.honda.dog]

Saw your uoa posted the other day. Impressive especially zero top off!

I've been using m1 0w40 because of its reputation for slow cleaning. This van had some really dark thick varnish visible through the oil fill. The viscosity doesnt matter to me as much as the slow cleaning over time. This van would be ideal for HPL if it wasnt as rusty as it is. I changed the original spark plugs at 200k actually and they looked decent

That makes sense on the 0w40. Amazed on the orginal spark plugs making it 200k. Does it have to pass emissions/smog/inspection? Ours has had a CEL for P0420 since like 120k miles but we dont have emissions testing.

 

[kschachn]

Even with two quarts of makeup oil, which is understandable given the age and mileage of the vehicle, the results are beyond impressive.

As I see it, there isn't a single good reason to spend money on overpriced and overhyped boutique oils.

Just my 0.02¢.

No, not based on a $30 spectrographic analysis. But that also doesn’t give comparative quality between motor oils.

 

[mt23]

That makes sense on the 0w40. Amazed on the orginal spark plugs making it 200k. Does it have to pass emissions/smog/inspection? Ours has had a CEL for P0420 since like 120k miles but we dont have emissions testing.

It wasnt misfiring or running bad or anything either. It does have to pass inspection and emissions and it does. No lights or concerns yet. When he got it near 80k it had a code for egr flow. I cleaned the egr valve, it hasn't come back. After the first m1 0w40 oil change it had a code for the vcm and was misfiring from it. I short changed that oil and used liqui moly engine flush. That vcm code and misfire hasn't come back either. Those are the only drivetrain problems hes had with the van since 80k

 

[Brons2]

Good report other than the low flashpoint. Hard to complain about wear metals less than 1ppm/1k miles in any category. TBN was clearly boosted by the top off oils. The body will probably rust out before the engine dies.

 

[Bullwinkle007]

Regardless its an impressive TBN after 20,000 miles of use.

I know I’ll get blasted. If he’s driving 300+ miles a day. He said 50k-75k a year. This is mostly hwy miles, very similar to semi trucks. My company changes every 20k miles. At 50% life, I need a gallon of oil every 10k

 

[mt23]

I know I’ll get blasted. If he’s driving 300+ miles a day. He said 50k-75k a year. This is mostly hwy miles, very similar to semi trucks. My company changes every 20k miles. At 50% life, I need a gallon of oil every 10k

He's coming up on another 20k+ oil change after thanksgiving and there has been less oil consumption this round. His driving has been less this year than others. Due to where he lives it's a mix of highway and lots of rural hilly open road. Will post when uoa is available.

 

[Artem]

TBN was clearly boosted by the top of oils.

High mileage Engines burn oil…
Heck, Engines in general burn oil.

Seeing as it’s perfectly natural (to an extent, IMO) for engines to burn SOME oil, obviously top offs and the fresh additives that come along are automatically part of the deal.

The OP said the engine was 1.5qt low on oil, so definitely the last 5-6,000 miles the engine was running on barely 3qts of oil

 

[Gasbuggy]

That's awesome.

If I were around this van, I'd overfill it 1 quart from the start.

 

[mt23]

Changed the oil again. Added 2 quarts top off (Mobil 1 0w40, one quart was SN the other SP) during the oci and the level was not low this time around at time of oil change. Pretty dang impressed with this van. Mobil 1 0w40 and Fram Ultra came out/off. The old ultra was mostly unremarkable. Slightly wavy pleats, no significant junk between pleats with pick to scrape out, slight deposit paste at bottom edges of can where in contact with bypass valve. Mobil 1 0w40 and Fram Endurance went back in/on.

 

[Brons2]

Impressive 23K. Top off oil helped with TBN retention, I'm sure. But still very impressive.

 

[fantastic]

Kazu's Van is still running down the road isn't it.

 

[mt23]

Kazu's Van is still running down the road isn't it.

It sure is