2005 Accord

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT

Yup, and the reason is, ON AVERAGE, they have a better ownership experience because they're not breaking down as much. I know, everyone knows someone who had an Accord that was a total p.o.s., but it's no secret that in general, they're more reliable, last longer, and for that reason - hold their value more. Same with Toyotas.


oh boy... not this argument again...

OK, Ill just smile and nod... If youre comfortable paying $$$ for a honda of that vintage and mileage, then go ahead. I agree with Win & the critic.

JMH

 

[brianl703]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
They won't even put a freakin drain plug in the pan on the tranny!


It does have a drain plug, although it's not specifically called that--it's a plug that when you pull it without the engine running 4 quarts of fluid come out. GM would like you to change the filter when you change the fluid, though.

 

[brianl703]

A friend of mine bought a 2001 Honda Civic with 80K on it for $10K last year. Now it's got over 100K on it and he's looking at maybe having to get a new transmission. (It's doing strange things..apparently that model year Honda Civic is notorious for transmission problems..?)

 

[The Critic]

Originally Posted By: brianl703
A friend of mine bought a 2001 Honda Civic with 80K on it for $10K last year. Now it's got over 100K on it and he's looking at maybe having to get a new transmission. (It's doing strange things..apparently that model year Honda Civic is notorious for transmission problems..?)

Nothing widespread. Tell him to check with Honda as there's a VERY good chance that they'll cover most or all of that repair.

 

[JHZR2]

I have a friend that owns a 2003 or 2004 civic, and has been complaining of bad shifting and flaring since about 30k. Multiple dealer services have not helped.

i cannot say that the MT in our integra is much better.

JMH

 

[BuickGN]

Originally Posted By: The Critic
The 5-speed autos that are paired to the 4-cyl engines have no problems.

How many miles on this vehicle? 13k is very high. Unless they are willing to let it go for 11k or less, move on.


I've been meaning to ask for some time now, is the 4 cylinder 5speed the exact same trans as the V6 5speed or are there differences? Reason I ask is I drive the car like an old man 99% of the time and if they're the same, hopefully mine will have a long life since I put less power through it than most of the 4 cylinder owners do on a daily basis.

Being that I'm not working for the month of December and bored out of my mind with an extra gallon of Amsoil in the garage I think I'm going to do a 4K mile drain and refill today. Found a ton of GC at the store today. Tempted to drain the 2K mile Amsoil out just to have something to do.

 

[The Critic]

Originally Posted By: BuickGN
Originally Posted By: The Critic
The 5-speed autos that are paired to the 4-cyl engines have no problems.

How many miles on this vehicle? 13k is very high. Unless they are willing to let it go for 11k or less, move on.


I've been meaning to ask for some time now, is the 4 cylinder 5speed the exact same trans as the V6 5speed or are there differences? Reason I ask is I drive the car like an old man 99% of the time and if they're the same, hopefully mine will have a long life since I put less power through it than most of the 4 cylinder owners do on a daily basis.

Being that I'm not working for the month of December and bored out of my mind with an extra gallon of Amsoil in the garage I think I'm going to do a 4K mile drain and refill today. Found a ton of GC at the store today. Tempted to drain the 2K mile Amsoil out just to have something to do.

The rebuild kits are the same, but there may be differences in line pressure, etc that I don't know about.

 

[BuickGN]

That's good to know. I'm sure there are tweaks here and there with line pressure and shift points to match the V6. I think a lot of people drive the TL like it's a sports car and you should be able to push it once in a while without hurting it. But for people like me that baby it most of the time it gives me hope.

BTW, thanks for all the help on the brakes.

 

[The Critic]

Originally Posted By: BuickGN
That's good to know. I'm sure there are tweaks here and there with line pressure and shift points to match the V6. I think a lot of people drive the TL like it's a sports car and you should be able to push it once in a while without hurting it. But for people like me that baby it most of the time it gives me hope.

BTW, thanks for all the help on the brakes.

No problem. Let me know how the Centric Premium Rotor and Axxis Ultimate pad combination works out for you. That's what you're going with, right?

 

[BuickGN]

That's the one. I'll probably be installing them Christmas day lol.

 

[bretfraz]

Black Book values (forget Galves guide) show the following:

2005 Accord VP, 4dr, 4cyl, auto, 31k miles, Colorado

$10,100 to $10,800 trade in

$12,200 to $13,200 retail


So asking $13k isn't too bad, almost full "clean" retail. I'd think an offer of $12,000 even would get it done. A fair price for all parties.

For perspective, here in Atlanta '05 Accord LX's with miles in the 30's are asking $14k-$16k. Seems to me $13k is a reasonable asking price. Shop your local market and see what dealers are asking for cars like this.

 

[Drew99GT]

I looked at Black Book online and it only gives trade in. And it was $7,740 - $10,160. How'd you find retail Bret?

 

[brianl703]

Originally Posted By: The Critic

Nothing widespread. Tell him to check with Honda as there's a VERY good chance that they'll cover most or all of that repair.


There's a LOT of complaints about it on the NHTSA site. Will let him know to see if Honda will cover it. I hope the fact that he isn't the original owner won't cause problems. I know some other automakers aren't as willing to goodwill a repair on a second-owner car.

 

[brianl703]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
They won't even put a freakin drain plug in the pan on the tranny!


I'd rather have an oil filter that's easily accessible (like it is on the Ecotec, and like it not is on any Honda 4-banger) than a drain plug on the transmission, come to think of it.

 

[bretfraz]

I have another Black Book source that gave me both.

Even still, retail prices are going to be based on local cars for sale, not a guide. Around here, $13k for an '05 Accord is cheap but that may be more typical where you are. What are local Honda dealers selling '05 LX's for?

 

[Drew99GT]

mid 15s

 

[Mr_Incredible]

The price you pay will depend on your negotiating skills and the stubbornness of the seller.

The last car I purchased from a private seller traded hands at 71 percent of their initial asking price. My first offer was 61 percent of their asking price. I gave up the last $20 to cement the deal. I think I was lucky overall. It doesn't always turn out so well.

Some of it is being a hard-nosed trader. Some of it is good ol' boy. Some of it is wide-eyed neophyte. Mix and match as appropriate. It takes practice, but it has a good payback.