2000 windstar 3.8L v6 mix M1/ M1HM 10w30 13k miles

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severity 1 (normal). 95% highway. 3rd oc with m1. topped off with 1.5Q M1HM 5w30. Amsoil Eao034 filter. 17 months in service. Found a TAN/ TBN cross over moment.

All prior oil fills (besides FF factory fill) are Amsoil product code names.

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OIL M1&M1HM 10W30 M1&M1HM 10w30 M1 10w30 ATM 10W30 ATM 10W30 ATM 10W30 ATM 10W30 ATM 10W30 ATM 10W30 ATM 10W30 ATM 10W30 ATM 10W30 ATM 10W30 ATM 10W30 ATM 10W30 ATM 10W30 ASL 5W30 HDD 5W30 HDD 5W30 HDD 5W30 TSO 0W30 TSO 0W30 TSO 0W30 HDD 5W30 TSO 0W30 FF

MILES(TIME IN USE) 13.3K 11.1k 8129 15K 10.3K 11.5K 9K 17.1k 9.9K 8K 3.4K 14.6K 12.9K 3.8K 11.8K 6K 8.4K 14.9K 13.4K 2.6K 11.3K 27.5K 18.9K 13.9K 9688 1716

O&F CHANGED Y Y Y Y N Y Y Y Y Y N Y N N Y N Y N Y N Y Y N Y Y Y

MILES 264.1K 250.8K 239.7K 231.5K 227K 207K 195K 186K 169K 159K 154K 151K 149K 140K 136K 131K 125K 109K 94K 83K 81K 69K 61K 41.8K 27.1K 1716

MAKEUP OIL 1.5 1.5 .5 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 2 0

SAMPLE TAKEN 18-JUN-19 12-JAN-18 14-JUL-16 16-DEC-15 7-JUL-15 28-MAY-13 31-JUL-12 21-DEC-11 18-AUG-10 17-FEB-10 31-AUG-09 30-APR-09 25-FEB-07 9-NOV-06 8-OCT-06 28-FEB-06 19-NOV-05 2-SEP-03 21-DEC-02 30-JUL-02 18-JUL-02 22-MAR-02 31-JAN-02 6-JUL-01 11-SEP-00 19-NOV-99

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IRON 28 27 29 25 17 21 13 24 18 14 8 21 15 5 19 13 41 62 111 16 49 91 63 48 45 36

CHROMIUM 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 0 0 2 1 1 1 0

NICKEL 1 2 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 2 1 2 1

ALUMINUM 3 2 2 4 4 3 1 7 3 3 1 3 2 2 7 3 8 10 14 9 10 6 12 9 12 9

COPPER 8 10 5 13 9 8 4 10 7 6 12 8 10 4 15 8 17 42 55 9 22 4 20 14 24 131

LEAD 2 3 1 3 2 1 1 5 3 2 1 5 9 0 5 1 6 17 21 3 8 7 7 8 6 9

TIN 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 2 3 2 1 1

CADMIUM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

SILVER 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

VANADIUM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

SILICON 16 17 17 22 20 34 23 37 43 32 18 13 18 11 24 21 20 40 27 9 27 37 37 50 54 139

SODIUM 5 4 3 7 7 8 7 11 8 7 5 10 9 0 11 0 0 14 13 2 3 6 5 5 5 10

POTASSIUM 2 2 1 4 1 2 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

TITANIUM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

MOLYBDENUM 98 92 94 175 176 151 151 60 54 53 51 48 51 50 3 1 3 7 7 0 5 10 7 5 8 0

ANTIMONY 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0

MANGANESE 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 4

LITHIUM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1

BORON 47 44 56 61 61 55 79 61 101 152 221 89 117 215 29 57 43 1 1 32 34 39 36 21 45 104

MAGNESIUM 931 820 700 18 18 18 16 16 16 26 24 84 115 103 923 908 783 43 108 34 395 351 338 46 353 69

CALCIUM 1345 1255 1490 4104 4109 3580 3686 3534 3203 3349 3414 3098 3360 3246 2717 2652 2716 3930 4249 4333 3132 3147 3181 4345 3181 2237

BARIUM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 5

PHOSPHOROUS 794 726 731 703 736 657 599 653 645 640 697 614 694 615 894 1093 1051 1165 1073 1216 1242 1239 1293 1267 1243 1160

ZINC 934 869 852 892 867 777 687 817 782 755 853 790 958 936 1255 1391 1283 1279 1299 1355 1569 1541 1515 1348 1536 1392



WATER 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

cSt @ 212ºF 12.1 11.8 11.3 12.5 11.9 11.7 11.3 13.1 11.6 11.5 10.9 15.2 13.06 11.65 15.95 13.79 13.55 16.13 15.27 11.5 16.7 16 13.5 15.9 11.5 9.5

FUEL 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.2

TAN 3.32 2.68 2.81 4.08 3.34 N/R N/R N/R N/R N/R N/R N/R N/R N/R N/R N/R N/R N/R N/R N/R N/R N/R N/R N/R N/R N/R

TBN 3.21 4.2 4.28 3.09 3.27 3.34 3.42 2.79 4.02 4.29 4.91 3.88 4.78 9.92 4.54 6.75 7.01 4 9.4 12.8 6 7.9 8.4 8.7 8.1 5.7

OXIDATION 17 15 16 59 57 56 56 57 57 44 41 15 32 25 30 24 16 14 23 23.3 14.4 27.8 20 33.3 10 12.2

NITRATION 14 13 12 15 14 16 16 33 26 24 21 17 24 20 27 17 19 9 14 14.3 31.4 50 40 35.7 22.9 11.4
 
Good data stream! You're nearly to a point where true, real stdev can be understood. 26 samples; only 4 more to go!

So far, it's not too bad for those old Essex 3.8L engines. They are not the most long-lived as a species, but yours seems to be doing OK. In fact, all the wear metals are fairly typical from a macro sense. These engines just shed more metals than others.

Here's your wear data in terms of ppm/1k miles: (note - I took out the FF data because it was skewing the rest)
avg; stdev
2.9; 3.9 IRON
0.0; 0.0 CHROMIUM
0.1; 0.1 NICKEL
0.6; 1.1 ALUMINUM
1.4; 14.7 COPPER
0.4; 1.0 LEAD
I again caution ... you're a few samples shy of meaningful statistical stability in terms of stdev, but you're far closer than most anyone else I've seen on BITOG.
You cannot state which of the oil products did best, because the number of samples for each choice are far too few, but overall, you can assess the general health of the engine, and know it's true nature of variation once the 30th sample is complete.
Keep it up!
 
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Pure [censored] (MHO).

You have no way of knowing if the Lab testing method changed over time (a secret that a lab probably keeps closely guarded), repeated seasonal diviations (i.e. 2 summers -Vs- 1 fall, winter, spring, or driving habits (hwy/city). Those are major deviations that you simply can't measure honestly and do affect oil wear. Just saying IMO...
 
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