1997 Buick Park Ave - Power Steering System Fluid Capacity?

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I want to do a complete power steering system flush and change over to Pentosin CHF-11 in an effort to reduce or eliminate power steering moaning after cold start on days below 60F.

How much Pentosin CHF-11 do I need to buy? Is a one liter can enough?
 
The specified GM power steering fluid is less expensive.
 
I have what's listed for a '97 Buick Lesabre with the 3800 engine, which is "GM 1052884 - 1 pint, 1050017 - 1 quart, or equivalent"

That suggests to me that 1 pint would be enough, however that seems like a very small capacity? Regardless, 1 liter = 1.06 quarts
 
My four Volvo 240s have GM Saginaw Type II pumps. Same pump as in your Buick Park Avenue.

They all get Mobil 1 Full Synthetic MV ATF or Full Syn DEX VI.

I winter in Stowe VT. My lowest start temp to date is -17 degrees Fahrenheit. I have never had an Issue with these pumps. Never.

Can you please explain why you need CHF 11s for temperatures below 60 degrees?
 
Yes, as I noted. The specified GM power steering fluid is less expensive.
 
The specified GM power steering fluid is less expensive.
You are correct, but my power steering pump moaned and squealed for a couple minutes after cold start when using GM stock PSF. According to people at Buickforums, this is a common ailment of my model year of Buick Park Ave and several other Buicks, Chevys, and GMCs of that era.

It slightly improved using Lucas PSF. It still moaned, but no squealing.

It was same with Idemitsu PSF as with Lucas PSF. Idemitsu was a side-grade from Lucas. Still moaning, but no squealing.

It improved using Lubegard Complete Multi-Vehicle Synthetic PSF, which it currently has in it. Less moaning, no squealing.

The Lubegard PSF has lower cold start viscosity than the others I've tried, and its 100KV viscosity is similar to the others. People at Buickforums recommended I try Pentosin CHF-11 because it has an even lower cold start viscosity while still having an appropriate viscosity at 100KV.

They said I'm experiencing a bad case of a known issue with my late 90s Buick. There is 1 or 2 GM TSBs about it. They said the two known/common cures are an updated return hose and using Pentosin CHF-11 or GM cold weather PSF (even though it's not cold where I live).

I already updated the return hose, but that didn't help. Next thing to try is Pentosin CHF-11, but they didn't tell me how much Pentosin CHF-11 I'd need to replace all fluid in system.

Based on my past experience, I think a 1 liter can might be (just barely) enough, but I'm not sure.

I could ask Buickforums how much I'd need, but it's a slow moving forum. It'd take 1-2 weeks to get an answer there.
 
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Lubegard was an improvement, but not enough improvement. So I do now want to try Pentosin CHF-11.
 
Thank you everyone for your advice. I'll buy two 1 liter cans in case I need two. If I only need one, I will return the other can to Amazon Prime.

I found 1 liter can for $25 from Walmart or Amazon Prime. That's a lot better than $47 from NAPA or $43 from Oreilly. With Amazon Prime I can buy two cans ($25 each) and conveniently return one can if I only need one of the two cans.

Since Amazon is the seller and shipper, I know it will be real Pentosin CHF-11 (not counterfeit). I don't trust 3rd party sellers on Amazon unless I already know and trust the company.
 
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Amazon or FCP Euro would be my recommendations for CHF-11s. I buy it in 4L containers for the hydraulic suspension in my two Mercedes. It is not cheap, and the suspension fluid flush takes several liters.
 
OP - you asked a basic question ... How much PS fluid do you need?
Here are your choices:
1) look it up in your owner's manual
2) look it up on the internet
3) blather incessantly with 10,000 words where you take your own thread topic off course. Adding to the content you already discussed in a previous thread about the very same product.


Here's my recommendation to your underlying real question.
Buy two cans. Use one. If you need the second can; use it. If not, return it.

Glad I could add some logic to your day.


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