'16 Chrysler 200s or Chevy Cruze
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Originally Posted By: 77GrandPrix
Originally Posted By: pbm
I vote for neither....the Cruze isn't rated very reliable either (google it).
According to JD Power rankings it's reliability is average. Same as Mazda3 and Nissan Sentra.
It eats water pumps like a champion if a recent thread on here is any indication FWIW.
Originally Posted By: pbm
I vote for neither....the Cruze isn't rated very reliable either (google it).
According to JD Power rankings it's reliability is average. Same as Mazda3 and Nissan Sentra.
It eats water pumps like a champion if a recent thread on here is any indication FWIW.
We have 5 million Chevy Cruises on the road over here. Everybody has one!
Whatever is a better deal since lease is like paying rent and you get nothing back but transportation for x years.
The 200 sure looks worlds better than the last one.
Originally Posted By: cptbarkey
Another vote for neither. get a slightly used Camry for peanuts on the dollar. They are flooding the market with lease returns.
Yes, get a Camry and you too can enjoy the shuddering U760E transmission and foot stench moldy air conditioning... Like me!
Another vote for neither. get a slightly used Camry for peanuts on the dollar. They are flooding the market with lease returns.
Yes, get a Camry and you too can enjoy the shuddering U760E transmission and foot stench moldy air conditioning... Like me!
Don't buy the nonsense all the Chrysler haters are spewing. Sure, the 9 speed was a pile of trash when it came out, but models built after September '15 implemented several mechanical changes and are much smoother in operation...haven't had one of the new ones fail yet. Other than 2015 models puking transmissions, the 200 is a fine car.
cruze is 2 undepowered. i had 2 of them for a loaner while my car was in for warranty work. going uphill at 80, foot to the floor at about 4500 rpms and the car had no more power. only Chrysler product I would own would have 2 have the pen star 3.6.
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I work for enterprise rent a car. We have many 2015/2016 200s that we rent out. Out of all the cars, trucks, and SUVs we rent the 200s get check engine lights alot. The front passenger floorboard carpet falls down from around the foot well. The interior pieces by carpet and console in foot area come apart. The electric knob shifter for the transmission is slow to respond. Aka you put it in park and have to wait a second before letting your foot off the brake or you might roll forwards or back. When moving slow through a parking lot the transmission can't decide what to do and the car starts to surge forward then slow down in repeated succession. I think the trans might be constantly shifting between two gears. The infotainment system has a really low resolution display as well. I would go with the Cruz. Btw this was typed on a phone so forgive the poor wording and sentence structure.
Originally Posted By: madRiver
Whatever is a better deal since lease is like paying rent and you get nothing back but transportation for x years.
This, unless you have a personal preference towards one over the other. I've rented them both and would be happy with either, especially if I scored a sweet lease deal and it allowed low cost motoring.
Sometimes leasing makes sense!
Whatever is a better deal since lease is like paying rent and you get nothing back but transportation for x years.
This, unless you have a personal preference towards one over the other. I've rented them both and would be happy with either, especially if I scored a sweet lease deal and it allowed low cost motoring.
Sometimes leasing makes sense!
Originally Posted By: gabriel9766
cruze is 2 undepowered.
I liked the Cruze when I had one, but merging onto a freeway had that little 1.4t wheezing.
cruze is 2 undepowered.
I liked the Cruze when I had one, but merging onto a freeway had that little 1.4t wheezing.
Drove both as rentals, hated both .Cruise does nothing well. very mediocre car.
FCA makes junk. The seating was so stiff , i could never get comfortable.
The Dart limited is a better ride and handles better. Still a Dodge.
Go drive or lease an elantra or an optima .
I know, you hate "foreign " cars.
FCA makes junk. The seating was so stiff , i could never get comfortable.
The Dart limited is a better ride and handles better. Still a Dodge.
Go drive or lease an elantra or an optima .
I know, you hate "foreign " cars.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I would never lease any car, it's a stupid financial move, but doubly so on domestic vehicles which depreciate fast.
1....Agree totally....why do you need a new car?
When leasing...YOU... are taking the hit for the first 3 years of deprecation (about 45 to 55+% of the original value). Not a wise financial move. Also your limited to a certain mileage each year (usually 12K).
A better financial move would be to look for a good 3 or 4 year old model, in good shape, where most of that early deprecation is gone and take out a used care loan for the shortest time possible. (If you have fair credit, at this time they can be had for 2 to 3%)
I would never lease any car, it's a stupid financial move, but doubly so on domestic vehicles which depreciate fast.
1....Agree totally....why do you need a new car?
When leasing...YOU... are taking the hit for the first 3 years of deprecation (about 45 to 55+% of the original value). Not a wise financial move. Also your limited to a certain mileage each year (usually 12K).
A better financial move would be to look for a good 3 or 4 year old model, in good shape, where most of that early deprecation is gone and take out a used care loan for the shortest time possible. (If you have fair credit, at this time they can be had for 2 to 3%)
Originally Posted By: Oregoonian
1....Agree totally....why do you need a new car?
Warranty?
1....Agree totally....why do you need a new car?
Warranty?
Originally Posted By: SumpChump
Originally Posted By: cptbarkey
Another vote for neither. get a slightly used Camry for peanuts on the dollar. They are flooding the market with lease returns.
Yes, get a Camry and you too can enjoy the shuddering U760E transmission and foot stench moldy air conditioning... Like me!
wash your shoes bud.
Originally Posted By: cptbarkey
Another vote for neither. get a slightly used Camry for peanuts on the dollar. They are flooding the market with lease returns.
Yes, get a Camry and you too can enjoy the shuddering U760E transmission and foot stench moldy air conditioning... Like me!
wash your shoes bud.
FWIW I have a Cruze and like it. Have no problems merging either (ok I'm an 18 wheeler driver too LOL). The 200 didn't have as much legroom and I didn't like the seats (I'm a tall 6'6"). If that's not an issue, I would also consider a Dart. It seems to have more legroom than the 200 and don't forget there are two Cruzes. Don't get the non-turbo LS; make sure it's the LT. You'll have more power and get better mileage to boot. The LS doesn't have cruise control either.
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I like the how the 200 looks, and with the 3.6 it must go pretty smartly. It's probably quieter and more comfortable than a Cruze?
I haven't driven either of them, but if I was getting an automatic, for near equal money on a lease, the 200 seems like a better car.
I haven't driven either of them, but if I was getting an automatic, for near equal money on a lease, the 200 seems like a better car.
I cannot express how disappointed I am in you guys - not one endorsement for the OP to hit the local sheriff's auction to pick up a used CVPI? Say it isn't so that the P71 has fallen from grace!
Originally Posted By: threeputtpar
I cannot express how disappointed I am in you guys - not one endorsement for the OP to hit the local sheriff's auction to pick up a used CVPI? Say it isn't so that the P71 has fallen from grace!
Most have already been sold off and replaced by the Taurus and Charger based cars by now, atleast around these parts.
I cannot express how disappointed I am in you guys - not one endorsement for the OP to hit the local sheriff's auction to pick up a used CVPI? Say it isn't so that the P71 has fallen from grace!
Most have already been sold off and replaced by the Taurus and Charger based cars by now, atleast around these parts.
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