0w20 Good or not

[spasm3]

Originally Posted By: PimTac



Your Mazda specs for 0w20.


In the USA, yes. For Mexico, the manual states to use 5w-30 and only if that's not available, to use 5w 20.

 

[littleant]

Originally Posted By: Zee09
Poor engineering has always been abundant in the automotive industry.
Totally agree. Many cases of poor engine and transmission design's. Also some really ridiculous service intervals.

 

[PimTac]

Originally Posted By: spasm3
Originally Posted By: PimTac



Your Mazda specs for 0w20.


In the USA, yes. For Mexico, the manual states to use 5w-30 and only if that's not available, to use 5w 20.





I didn’t know that No Carolina was part of Mexico. Must be the New geography

 

[Shannow]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Japan actually has their own version of "CAFE" (the "Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry (METI)") ... so I'd think their use of thinner and thinner oil is also driven by the their fuel mileage regulations/laws. - LINK

More info on some of Japan's fuel economy regulations. - LINK


Yes, if you look at those Honda papers, they state that they are using thinner grades to improve fuel economy and reduce carbon emissions...while ensuring "satisfactory" wear.

 

[spasm3]

Originally Posted By: PimTac


I didn’t know that No Carolina was part of Mexico. Must be the New geography



Some areas are, at least by appearances!

 

[PimTac]

Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Japan actually has their own version of "CAFE" (the "Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry (METI)") ... so I'd think their use of thinner and thinner oil is also driven by the their fuel mileage regulations/laws. - LINK

More info on some of Japan's fuel economy regulations. - LINK


Yes, if you look at those Honda papers, they state that they are using thinner grades to improve fuel economy and reduce carbon emissions...while ensuring "satisfactory" wear.





That makes sense. No matter which grade of oil you use, your engine will eventually wear out. The rest of the vehicle will likely wear out before the engine.

 

[supton]

Originally Posted By: billt460
Originally Posted By: supton
But cartridge means I can just toss the paper into the trash. I guess I could cut the metal canister and separate the mess... but right back to the start.


I've been tossing spin on filters in the trash for the last 50 years. Along with millions of others. What difference does the metal canister make? The media is what soaks up all the oil, not the metal can it sits in.


Bugs me to toss metal into the trash when it can be recycled. I know, not everything can be recycled, but it's a personal preference. I just think a plain paper filter might save on resources.

 

[spasm3]

Originally Posted By: supton


Bugs me to toss metal into the trash when it can be recycled. I know, not everything can be recycled, but it's a personal preference. I just think a plain paper filter might save on resources.



There is a recycling center near me. I throw my filters in a 5 gallon bucket, ever other year or when the bucket is full, i take it to the city recycle center.

 

[billt460]

Originally Posted By: spasm3
Originally Posted By: supton


Bugs me to toss metal into the trash when it can be recycled. I know, not everything can be recycled, but it's a personal preference. I just think a plain paper filter might save on resources.



There is a recycling center near me. I throw my filters in a 5 gallon bucket, ever other year or when the bucket is full, i take it to the city recycle center.


My Auto Zone takes them along with the old oil. But they are just too messy to deal with. All it would take is for one to leak in your interior, and you will very suddenly have a much less desire to be so "green". Besides, if you let them drain, and move them from side to side occasionally, you'll get 95% of the oil out of them. My drain pan even has a post to sit them on for that purpose.

 

[supton]

I keep metal in buckets, leaks wouldn't bother me (much).

Didn't think to look at Autozone, I have't taken oil to a parts store in years (transfer station takes waste oil and... probably gives it to someone who burns it). I'll have to look into that, maybe there is someplace local to take this stuff.

 

[Blue_Goose]

I'm staying with 0W20 for my Civic. Oil changes look fairly simple on this car. As noted above it sounds like the same setup as the Camry. Rides low to the ground and has a flimsy cover that needs to be removed prior to changing the oil.


Glad I purchased Race Ramps.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Always use another jack nearby, as a backup to ramps-in-place.

 

[Dorian]

I will be running 0W20 in both Camrys. Both cars have fairly large sumps, so oil temperature shouldn't get to the point where oil is too thin. Also, our cars in winter see a lot of cold starts. Tig1 is a good testimony. I am considering running M1 EP HM 0W20 with the higher levels of zinc and phosphorus to match those of M1 0W40.

 

[1JZ_E46]

Can we all agree that, absent fuel economy regulations such as CAFE, 0W-20 would not be as prevelant as it is today? Or is that controversial as well?

 

[Gebo]

Originally Posted by spasm3
Originally Posted by Oildudeny
If the manufacturer spec calls for 0w20, why is it many BITOG members choose another weight or recommend another weight to be used?


I do it because my manufacturers engineers recommend a different oil in countries not subject to CAFE.


Amen +1

 

[Gebo]

Originally Posted by PimTac
Originally Posted by spasm3
Originally Posted by PimTac



Your Mazda specs for 0w20.


In the USA, yes. For Mexico, the manual states to use 5w-30 and only if that's not available, to use 5w 20.





I didn�t know that No Carolina was part of Mexico. Must be the New geography


You haven't been to NC lately, have you? LOL

 

[ARB1977]

I'll be running Mobil One EP 0W20 for a few oil changes. Then Amsoil SS 0W20 after that. The fuel dilution issue doesn't seem to exist much.

 

[Garak]

Happy birthday, by the way!

 

[Bjornviken]

Originally Posted by ARB1977
I'll be running Mobil One EP 0W20 for a few oil changes. Then Amsoil SS 0W20 after that. The fuel dilution issue doesn't seem to exist much.


moved from a3 oil to amsoil 0w-20 ss, and i wont go back.
Only negative with amsoil ss series is that it can be out of stock over here!

 

[dave1251]

It is better than sufficient in the vast majority of American driving situations. Now if your tracking or towing where tempatures are elevated for hours on end then common sense should apply.