0w-8 in the new non US Yaris hybrid

"LAT has developed three New Ultra Light Racing Oils in SAE 0w2 and 0w5 viscosities for the ultimate protection and horsepower. Engines with tight tolerances will benefit from our oil with less oil drag and improved horsepower and torque. With LAT’s LFR additive and the highest quality Group IV and V synthetic base oils, you can expect big power gains and with LAT’s ultra-light viscosity racing oils. Features • High RPM protection • Reduces internal friction • Extreme wear protection • Maximizes horsepower & Torque by as much as 6%"


Hmmm....nice viscosity selection for their racing oils: 0W2, 0W5, 5W30 and 20W50
 
hold your horses.
the days when cars were able to withstand (without problems) hudreds thousand miles, are over.
first of all, new cars must respect stricter emission limits. longevity is on the last place.
what is good for exhaust, is bad for engine. start&stop system, or dpf is good example.
What? There is a 2020 Jetta over on VW Vortex with over 300,000 miles running {GASP} 0w20! I guess it didn't get the memo.
 
Yes, some Polo and Golf with 0W-20 used oil analysis often are better than regular LL 5w-30 engines. Thinner oil with proper additives often is better with a good engineering design. Yes, we should never put 0w-8 oil on engines that are not designed for it. Just make sure when buying 0W-16 or 0W-8 oil, they are indeed certified by an institute or manufacturers, not unknown brands. The fats that more Toyota and Honda burn oil with 5W-30 oil in the past than 0W-20 or 0W-16 these days should not worry us about thinner oil. Especially after the 2015 cars.

Many people thought they are smarter than the engineers and RnD on Oil and Engines amuse me.
 
Yes, some Polo and Golf with 0W-20 used oil analysis often are better than regular LL 5w-30 engines. Thinner oil with proper additives often is better with a good engineering design. Yes, we should never put 0w-8 oil on engines that are not designed for it. Just make sure when buying 0W-16 or 0W-8 oil, they are indeed certified by an institute or manufacturers, not unknown brands. The fats that more Toyota and Honda burn oil with 5W-30 oil in the past than 0W-20 or 0W-16 these days should not worry us about thinner oil. Especially after the 2015 cars.

Many people thought they are smarter than the engineers and RnD on Oil and Engines amuse me.
You can't compare wear performance between oils using UOA's. A quick read of this article on the main page should bring you up to speed:
 
What? There is a 2020 Jetta over on VW Vortex with over 300,000 miles running {GASP} 0w20! I guess it didn't get the memo.
what exactly does mean "running" ?
because plenty of 6+y cars , where next owners complaining about high oil consumption.
sure, it still does roll down the street , but i wouldn´t call that victory.
 
what exactly does mean "running" ?
because plenty of 6+y cars , where next owners complaining about high oil consumption.
sure, it still does roll down the street , but i wouldn´t call that victory.


How about @tig1 , a member here who has run multiples of hundreds of thousands of miles on various automobiles with a 20 grade oil and with no consumption or any issues? He also uses a 10k OCI.

If you don’t believe me you can search for his postings.
 
How about @tig1 , a member here who has run multiples of hundreds of thousands of miles on various automobiles with a 20 grade oil and with no consumption or any issues? He also uses a 10k OCI.

If you don’t believe me you can search for his postings.
I think he ran Mazda engines?
My Mazda on xW20 didn't consume any appreciable amount of oil, at 125k miles (which isn't anything special).
 
what exactly does mean "running" ?
because plenty of 6+y cars , where next owners complaining about high oil consumption.
sure, it still does roll down the street , but i wouldn´t call that victory.
I mean the engine is being fed proper spec 508 0w20 and operating as designed even with 300K miles. Does that hurt?
 
In the past, the main cause for oil consumption is degrading base oil and not enough detergent to keep the control ring clean. Logically, more stable 0W-8 have less issue if the antiwear for rod bearings, etc. is good. The film thickness is more important than the viscousity, this is the part that RnD on 0W-8 had achieved.
 
In the past, the main cause for oil consumption is degrading base oil and not enough detergent to keep the control ring clean. Logically, more stable 0W-8 have less issue if the antiwear for rod bearings, etc. is good. The film thickness is more important than the viscousity, this is the part that RnD on 0W-8 had achieved.
Film thickness is directly related to the viscosity.
 
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