The Owner's Manual page that was shown doesn't even call out any API or ILSAC spec requirement ... about a loose as it gets - too loose for today IMO.
0w-20 and the SN rating
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Idemitsu makes at least 3 different 0w20 oils (at least it did in the SN versions).
They make a dexos licensed version, a high-moly version called 'Zepro', and their 'regular' version which is pictured in this thread.
It has been speculated that their high-moly version is the same as Mazda's OE oil. The one pictured in this thread is NOT that version.
I actually scored a few 5 quart jugs of that 0w20 (the one pictured in this thread) in the SN version (not SN+) for $5 each at the AZ 'CLEARANCE' last year....I haven't used it yet so I can't comment on how it runs.
PS: The Miata isn't turbocharged so I'm thinking that OM is saying that any 0w20 synthetic....even SM rated as long as it has the 'starburst' symbol...will work. I'd use Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy and feel good about it.......
Here's the high-moly version which is thought to be the same as Mazda OE 0w20....it actually says that it is the same in the 'questions' about the product on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/ZEPRO-300100...18603548&sprefix=Idemitsu+0w20,aps,924&sr=8-3
They make a dexos licensed version, a high-moly version called 'Zepro', and their 'regular' version which is pictured in this thread.
It has been speculated that their high-moly version is the same as Mazda's OE oil. The one pictured in this thread is NOT that version.
I actually scored a few 5 quart jugs of that 0w20 (the one pictured in this thread) in the SN version (not SN+) for $5 each at the AZ 'CLEARANCE' last year....I haven't used it yet so I can't comment on how it runs.
PS: The Miata isn't turbocharged so I'm thinking that OM is saying that any 0w20 synthetic....even SM rated as long as it has the 'starburst' symbol...will work. I'd use Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy and feel good about it.......
Here's the high-moly version which is thought to be the same as Mazda OE 0w20....it actually says that it is the same in the 'questions' about the product on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/ZEPRO-300100...18603548&sprefix=Idemitsu+0w20,aps,924&sr=8-3
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It looks like you are right PimTac....:
https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/ind...ched out via,some while it's still available.
Good find. Also, Mazda solidified their contract with Idemitsu recently and will be the sole synthetic oil for Mazda. I asked at the dealership I use and they told me it’s their synthetic when a customer requests it.
My impression is that contracts were updated due to the upcoming opening of MTMUS which would be a boon for Idemitsu to supply fluids for the new vehicles being built there.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...miata-mobil-1-ep-0w20-5k-oci-9-months.333522/
I used Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 after that UOA. The engine did feel a bit slower but ran essentially the same. I would recommend not using 5w30 unless you're on track. Mobil 1 Extended Performance 0w20 is great oil. I sold the car and miss it badly.
I used Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 after that UOA. The engine did feel a bit slower but ran essentially the same. I would recommend not using 5w30 unless you're on track. Mobil 1 Extended Performance 0w20 is great oil. I sold the car and miss it badly.
The owners manual just says to use an API/ILSAC rated 0W-20 motor oil, doesn’t even mention which API category to use.
Just use an 0W-20 you’ll be fine. Some of you cannot make a grown up decision, I seriously wonder what struggles you go through daily.
Just use an 0W-20 you’ll be fine. Some of you cannot make a grown up decision, I seriously wonder what struggles you go through daily.
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