06 Toyota Avalon Cartridge Oil Filter

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Believe it or not Toyota is back to using cartridge oil filters, my new 06 Avalon XLS 3.5L has one. Does anyone know where I can get the spec's on factory filter and also are there any suppliers for this cartridge filter?
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Isn't the 3.5L in the same engine family as the truck 4.0L V6(Tacoma/4runner) which uses a normal oil filter?

You need to reference the factory service manuals to see if it is a simple bolt on. If you're lucky, it'll just be a mount and some gaskets.
 
WHY?
It can't be that bad, right? Where is the filter located?

It saves the trouble of cutting the filter open, and saves some metal...
 
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Originally posted by Papa Bear:
Can you get an adaptor to install a spin-on ??
P.B.


Except for the rip off pricing of the element, I love the one on my Cavalier. There was a favorable mention of the BMW cartridge in the easiest oil filters to change thread. I have 2 L15436's at $2.47 stashed.
 
At first I wondered why anyone would rather have a spin-on vs a cartridge filter. Then I read the procedure for changing oil on the Avalon. What a nightmare! What was Toyota thinking when they designed that filter housing?
 
I agree! It looks like a messy and time consuming job!

It looks like Toyota just developed a kludgy cartridge filter housing for the spot where a spin on mount used to be.

Which begs the question... why?
 
Higher profit margin on that $10 filter media
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Less friendly to the do-it-yourselfers
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Cartridges are easier to recycle then canisters.
 
If it had the same location as the 1gr on top of the engine it would be nice, but the current location is not what I would call freindly.
 
thanks for all the comments folks-I appreciate the input. guess I'll let the dealer take a wack at it and see what the cost is with me continuing to supply my own RP5/30.
Dealer used to do my Sequoia for $8 with my oil and filter.
 
Cadillac CTS with 3.6 engine has a cartridge filter also but its very easy to change. Sits on top of engine near filler and stick. Have even spilled a drop of oil changing it, most all the oil drains out of the filter before you remove it. Has to be one of the easier and least messy cars to change oil on.

Some newer Buicks use cartridge.

Trend is going back to those, less waste. Many states are making it law that business must recycle oil filters and the metal can makes it more costly to recyle because its hold oil that has to be drained out.

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Yes, The 1GR is ridiculously easy to change the filter on. Maybe the lower sloped hood and transversal instalation of the 2GR in the Avalon neccesatated the location. I would like to see where it is mounted in a Lexus with the rear wheel drive and this engine.
 
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Originally posted by unDummy:
Isn't the 3.5L in the same engine family as the truck 4.0L V6(Tacoma/4runner) which uses a normal oil filter?

You need to reference the factory service manuals to see if it is a simple bolt on. If you're lucky, it'll just be a mount and some gaskets.


Yes. The 1GR is the 4.0L seen in the trucks. It has the most ridiculously easy filter change setup I've ever seen. The filter is up on a little tray right about where you'd expect to see the battery in most normal cars (driver's side). You just reach in, unscrew, and replace. The "tray" will catch any dribbles, which you can then easily wipe up. Why the 2GR (the 1GR's little brother car version) doesn't have the same feature is beyond me. The Avalon's engine room isn't that crowded. IMO, poor call on Toyota's part. They could at least have put the canister where you can reach it from above. GM outdid Toyota on this one (my bias: we own a Toyota. . .).
 
I always felt a little foolish the few times I've bought new vehicles, when my wife would say "Why are you crawling under a brand new car in the showroom?" I did it because if the filter was in too tough a spot, that car got ruled out. It seems that in the coming years it would be prudent to check on filter type and location if you are either doing the work yourself, or paying for it. This wasn't a factor when there used to be room under the hood...ahh...the good old days.
"Nostalgia is... the past with the PAIN removed"
 
With the difficulty of coming by reliable information on the reliability of a car, maybe you may as well look at things like ease of service and appearance. I try to check stuff like the thermostat too.
 
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