Originally Posted By: JOD
Originally Posted By: sayjac
Can't forget the substantial shipping costs for fliuds/chem when quoting from H&A. Pass. If lucky, you 'might' be able to get DW-1 from the dealer for Honda's retail $8.23/qt. I know for Z-1, all dealers here but one quoted prices over Honda retail price. Not saying DW-1 won't work fine for the OP, but be prepared to pay more than $6.18/qt.
Yeah, I think H&A only makes sense if you're on the west coast. For me, shipping really isn't that much more than sales tax. But I'm not that far away.
I *think* that GM dealers now have DW-1 rebadged as AC Delco 22717466. There's a rolling change--though I'm not sure how/if you can differentiate between Z-1 and DW1 with the AC Delco branded stuff. Most GM dealers sell this for $5.00 a qt, at least around my way.
Yeah, that must be it. Whenever I see H&A quoted, the shipping costs for the east coast, make it not practical. As said, I can generally get Honda parts and fluids for Honda retail, big deal, right.
Interesting about the ACDelco ATF perhaps being the same as DW-1. Wondering what makes you think that? Though Saturn did have that year or two where they used Honda engines.
Anyway, with the shift away from Z-1, as said, for me it's time to give MaxLife a shot in my Z-1 spec'd Hondas.