02 Mitsubishi Galant Pictures under valve cover

[JAM25]

My dad now me changed the oil every 6 months spring and fall and I'd say it seees 1500k miles in that time period.
Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
Great job!

Goes to show that in the long run, maintenance never really costs you.

Question: What has your AVERAGE oil change interval been on this clean engine?

 

[JAM25]

I didn't say its this clean BC of the defy I started before I joined bitog I would put any oil on sale now joining here made me stick to one brand which is qsdefy and I'm using pub on my SUV and I put nothing but shell gasoline in all cars. Which is why I said I'm sticking to sopus products

Originally Posted By: Topo
So whatever oil you used, kept the engine clean. Had nothing to do with Sopus products, you said you ran many different brands, whatever was on sale. It's doubtful that Q.Defy cleaned you motor spotless in 4 changes, it didn't make you engine dirtier either, therefore what we should say is, "All modern conventional oils are capable of keeping Your engine clean."

 

[tig1]

Originally Posted By: JAM25
My dad now me changed the oil every 6 months spring and fall and I'd say it seees 1500k miles in that time period.
Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
Great job!

Goes to show that in the long run, maintenance never really costs you.

Question: What has your AVERAGE oil change interval been on this clean engine?

Are you saying you do 1500-3000 mile OCIs? How many miles on the car when you bought it?

 

[ottotheclown]

From what I gather the car . is 11 years old, it has 152,000 miles. The father gave it to his son who is the op. He does less than 3k in 6 months, so changes the oil every 6 months. He has used only convential. I assume the father did also. This is the result almost brand new. He makes alot of short trips which are killers as we know. So it is not how much instead how it is done. So as I gather with dino you not only can achive this pristine condition but also go 152,000. This has to shake up the higher priced syn. peanut gallery a bit.If this is all true it gives you an insight on actually how accurate the info is on the internet at times.Info that most times needs no back up at all unlike real life. Mr WC Fields was so right!!

 

[147_Grain]

The average daily driver out there would put the same amount of miles on their vehicle in a single month (as the OP did in 6 months).

It would be like the daily driver changing their oil every single month at 1,500 miles...........and if they did that, their engine would also look very clean too.

 

[volk06]

Originally Posted By: ottotheclown
From what I gather the car . is 11 years old, it has 152,000 miles. The father gave it to his son who is the op. He does less than 3k in 6 months, so changes the oil every 6 months. He has used only convential. I assume the father did also. This is the result almost brand new. He makes alot of short trips which are killers as we know. So it is not how much instead how it is done. So as I gather with dino you not only can achive this pristine condition but also go 152,000. This has to shake up the higher priced syn. peanut gallery a bit.If this is all true it gives you an insight on actually how accurate the info is on the internet at times.Info that most times needs no back up at all unlike real life. Mr WC Fields was so right!!


With an OCI so short... it should be that clean no matter which API SL/SM/SN oil was used.

 

[aquariuscsm]

Looks brand new! Awesome Mitsubishi engine

 

[ottotheclown]

That logic would make sense if the car had 22,000 miles and was 11 years old. So what happened during the 150,000 or so miles??? Over the 11 years huh??? How did it stay so clean on dino if it was dino all this time which was not yet established. We know as hard as it is to believe that that one run of Mobil 1 did not clean up all the varnish and sludge. If you did 3k of 2 mile runs every day you might have a problem. If you do 10k on h'way farm land you should never do less than 10 k and uoa's would be a waste. Hway under certain conditions with SN oil is a piece of cake.Wouldn't 156 k over 11 years come out to 14.2 k per year or so. If this is all dino we gotta say yeah for dino!!
Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: ottotheclown
From what I gather the car . is 11 years old, it has 152,000 miles. The father gave it to his son who is the op. He does less than 3k in 6 months, so changes the oil every 6 months. He has used only convential. I assume the father did also. This is the result almost brand new. He makes alot of short trips which are killers as we know. So it is not how much instead how it is done. So as I gather with dino you not only can achive this pristine condition but also go 152,000. This has to shake up the higher priced syn. peanut gallery a bit.If this is all true it gives you an insight on actually how accurate the info is on the internet at times.Info that most times needs no back up at all unlike real life. Mr WC Fields was so right!!


With an OCI so short... it should be that clean no matter which API SL/SM/SN oil was used.

 

[volk06]

Originally Posted By: ottotheclown
That logic would make sense if the car had 22,000 miles and was 11 years old. So what happened during the 150,000 or so miles??? Over the 11 years huh??? How did it stay so clean on dino if it was dino all this time which was not yet established. We know as hard as it is to believe that that one run of Mobil 1 did not clean up all the varnish and sludge. If you did 3k of 2 mile runs every day you might have a problem. If you do 10k on h'way farm land you should never do less than 10 k and uoa's would be a waste. Hway under certain conditions with SN oil is a piece of cake.Wouldn't 156 k over 11 years come out to 14.2 k per year or so. If this is all dino we gotta say yeah for dino!!
Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: ottotheclown
From what I gather the car . is 11 years old, it has 152,000 miles. The father gave it to his son who is the op. He does less than 3k in 6 months, so changes the oil every 6 months. He has used only convential. I assume the father did also. This is the result almost brand new. He makes alot of short trips which are killers as we know. So it is not how much instead how it is done. So as I gather with dino you not only can achive this pristine condition but also go 152,000. This has to shake up the higher priced syn. peanut gallery a bit.If this is all true it gives you an insight on actually how accurate the info is on the internet at times.Info that most times needs no back up at all unlike real life. Mr WC Fields was so right!!


With an OCI so short... it should be that clean no matter which API SL/SM/SN oil was used.


He said they changed the oil every 6 months. 15 years, an oci every 6 months would mean 30 oil changes. 150,000 miles over 30 oil changes is on average 5,000mi ocis, which is about a perfect OCI on dino now days, unless you have uoa testing. I never said dino didn't do a great job, obviously it did. With reasonable OCIs, any good oil will do the same with the only exception being extreme conditions.

 

[ottotheclown]

Got it you know that Kendahl oil you are running in your F 150 has both moly and titanium according to the Pqia voa. Neat stuff.
Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: ottotheclown
That logic would make sense if the car had 22,000 miles and was 11 years old. So what happened during the 150,000 or so miles??? Over the 11 years huh??? How did it stay so clean on dino if it was dino all this time which was not yet established. We know as hard as it is to believe that that one run of Mobil 1 did not clean up all the varnish and sludge. If you did 3k of 2 mile runs every day you might have a problem. If you do 10k on h'way farm land you should never do less than 10 k and uoa's would be a waste. Hway under certain conditions with SN oil is a piece of cake.Wouldn't 156 k over 11 years come out to 14.2 k per year or so. If this is all dino we gotta say yeah for dino!!
Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: ottotheclown
From what I gather the car . is 11 years old, it has 152,000 miles. The father gave it to his son who is the op. He does less than 3k in 6 months, so changes the oil every 6 months. He has used only convential. I assume the father did also. This is the result almost brand new. He makes alot of short trips which are killers as we know. So it is not how much instead how it is done. So as I gather with dino you not only can achive this pristine condition but also go 152,000. This has to shake up the higher priced syn. peanut gallery a bit.If this is all true it gives you an insight on actually how accurate the info is on the internet at times.Info that most times needs no back up at all unlike real life. Mr WC Fields was so right!!


With an OCI so short... it should be that clean no matter which API SL/SM/SN oil was used.


He said they changed the oil every 6 months. 15 years, an oci every 6 months would mean 30 oil changes. 150,000 miles over 30 oil changes is on average 5,000mi ocis, which is about a perfect OCI on dino now days, unless you have uoa testing. I never said dino didn't do a great job, obviously it did. With reasonable OCIs, any good oil will do the same with the only exception being extreme conditions.

 

[volk06]

Originally Posted By: ottotheclown
Got it you know that Kendahl oil you are running in your F 150 has both moly and titanium according to the Pqia voa. Neat stuff.
Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: ottotheclown
That logic would make sense if the car had 22,000 miles and was 11 years old. So what happened during the 150,000 or so miles??? Over the 11 years huh??? How did it stay so clean on dino if it was dino all this time which was not yet established. We know as hard as it is to believe that that one run of Mobil 1 did not clean up all the varnish and sludge. If you did 3k of 2 mile runs every day you might have a problem. If you do 10k on h'way farm land you should never do less than 10 k and uoa's would be a waste. Hway under certain conditions with SN oil is a piece of cake.Wouldn't 156 k over 11 years come out to 14.2 k per year or so. If this is all dino we gotta say yeah for dino!!

From what I gather the car . is 11 years old, it has 152,000 miles. The father gave it to his son who is the op. He does less than 3k in 6 months, so changes the oil every 6 months. He has used only convential. I assume the father did also. This is the result almost brand new. He makes alot of short trips which are killers as we know. So it is not how much instead how it is done. So as I gather with dino you not only can achive this pristine condition but also go 152,000. This has to shake up the higher priced syn. peanut gallery a bit.If this is all true it gives you an insight on actually how accurate the info is on the internet at times.Info that most times needs no back up at all unlike real life. Mr WC Fields was so right!!


With an OCI so short... it should be that clean no matter which API SL/SM/SN oil was used.


Yep it is some good stuff. I knew about the moly/titanium before the pqia tests. Check out my voa/uoas on the 2011 ecoboost.

 

[RISUPERCREWMAN]

Very impressive

 

[vtecboy]

wow!!!...Your engine looks brand new! ... I have a 2000 mitsubishi eclipse. And i've been using mobil 1 since i got the car back in 2008. And my engine looks like sh*t compared to yours. I don't have any sludge but it looks like gold varnish or something like that.
Now i switched to valvoline premium conventional a few weeks ago. Here's mine:

 

[mr_diy]

Mobil 1 clean myth busted?

 

[KCJeep]

Looks pretty good to me, it would be reasonable to figure the car had dino for the 8 years prior to you owning it thus the varnish. Mighty tough for any oil to get off varnish. And we don't know what the engine looked like when you bought it, that could be a vast improvement from what is was for all we know.

I am not a M1 fanboy by the way, just throwing out another perspective.

 

[JAM25]

Let me set it all out guys, it all started back in 2008 when we got the car with 87K miles. No previous OC history since it was bought on craigslist. At the time I was 16 and my family would use this as a daily family commute car. I started driving it a lot more once I hit 17. This car saw nothing but city miles since we have no reason to travel beyond city limits. As I was in my later teens I would drive it everywhere because I was 17 18 and went everywhere. At the time of OCs as stated before we used nothing but conventional and what was on sale. I've used purolater, drive works, fram, STP, and all the other stuff. Same with oil. I just used synthetic once and it was about 2 years ago which was M1 HM I didn't like it much so went back to conventional. I never abused my vehicle in any form, many ppl don't believe that conventional did this, I myself was shocked on how clean it was. But at earlier stage it saw more than 3000K miles during am OC it might have seen more than 5000K but now it sees probably less than 2500 miles. Myself and my fa,lily uses the SUV more since my parents don't need to drive as much anymore since everything is in walking distance. Hopefully all counts clear, but I must say ,myself I'll stick to conventional for ,y driving style and I been fortunate enough to have a clean engine. I plan on replacing the valve cover gaskets on my 99 cutlass soon so I'll also share those pics. That vehicle has 165K miles and has been with us since 2006 with just a little under 100K

 

[Ross]

My sparkplug tube seals were dried up and leaking so I pulled the valve cover on my engine the same as the original posters.

I purchased this car (2003 Mitsubishi made sebring)6 years ago. It had 40,0000 miles on it. I did one auto-rx cycled and used the maintenance dose every since. I used pp 5w30 with 5,000 mile oil changes. The engine now has 100,000 miles on it.
Here are my photos






Not as nice as the op's but not to bad. The varnish just wipes with little effort with a rag as you can see with the spark plug tubes. I didn't bother doing any more cleaning and just closed up as is.