Originally Posted By: supton
Originally Posted By: maxdustington
Ford left GM and Mopar in the dust technologically this decade. V8s are not the future, no matter how many cylinders you deactivate. Ford is selling the most trucks because they realized this first, and put in the engineering resources to produce high tech engines that are rugged enough for a work truck.
I thought Ford had been leading in sales for a longer period of time than the existence of the Ecoboost?
Say what you will, but GM's steadfast commitment to the ancient pushrod would be a negative--if it was a boat anchor. It isn't. It's managed to keep up in terms of power output, and I suspect it's smaller & lighter than any DOHC, with less parts. I actually admire their motors. For a given power output, simpler is better in my book.
I still like the idea of getting a RAM with the 3.6, but I suspect I'd miss the V8 burble.
Originally Posted By: Danno
Fuelly.com would indicate otherwise.
3.5L Ford Ecoboost returns similar fuel economy to the Chevrolet 6.2L at 16-17 MPG in real world use.
Not sure I'm surprised. With six plus speed transmissions, the rear end ratio matters a lot less. Now it becomes a question of wind drag and weight. Since they're all pretty similar, the engines are doing about the same amount of work, and thus using about the same amount of gasoline. A horsepower does not care if it was made in a small NA engine wound out to 6k, a large NA motor at 2k, or a turbo motor at 1.5k. It takes some amount of gasoline combusted to make each hp. At full tilt I've long thought these engines may (may!) run rich to control temperatures, but at anything less I have a hard time seeing OEM's leaving fuel economy on the table--I have a hard time seeing how one maker can somehow eek out a lower amount of gasoline required to make each horsepower without the others copying it.
Supton, remember I want to buy your Tundra when you are ready to move on! Lol. The new 3.6 with E-Torque is actually promising. That system is actually something similar to an idea I had. I would suspect that the Ram with the E-Torque system will achieve better real world mileage.