How bad is WOT for your car?

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: rw19
I wonder why car companies arent installing oil heaters. Most people where I live drive very little!


My charger heats both the oil and coolant when I plug it in however I cannot say if its just the oil absorbing whatever heat the block heater is radiating or if there's something designed into the system meant to heat the oil.
If its -30c ambient temps my oil temp is 0c and coolant temp is 30c,so it is significant.
I'll check tomorrow what the spreads are since its warmed up significantly outside. Tonight when I hopped in ambient is -4c. Oil temp was 35c and coolant was 60c,so I don't know if there's a thermostat built in regulating the block heater or how it's built.

 

[rw19]

My best time in the caddy is 0-60 miles in 3.8! haha. Its scary fast. Scares the [censored] outta me sometimes!

 

[Turk]

Originally Posted By: rw19
My best time in the caddy is 0-60 miles in 3.8! haha. Its scary fast. Scares the [censored] outta me sometimes!


...like my heavily modified 2006 GTO I had. FUN!

 

[Turk]

"How bad is WOT for your car?"

Just ask Artem. He goes WOT A LOT!!

...and his UOA's come out just fine.

 

[bigt61]

Things wear out faster when a car is driven hard - engine, transmission, brakes, suspension & shocks, tires. It's your wallet, have fun if you can afford to pay. Just don't hurt anybody else.

 

[rw19]

Turk. Its a curse. I need to attend a WOT rehab. It was fun when I was younger... Thought I would grow out of it... Hasn't happened yet. I will give it till I am 30 and if it doesnt change I will seriously think about attending speed anonymous meetings.

 

[rw19]

On a more serious note. I know JHRZ (sp?) says that short trippers should use a syn. What about you guys. Since I am dumping the oil so often is it better i use a conventional?

 

[rockydee]

Originally Posted By: rw19
On a more serious note. I know JHRZ (sp?) says that short trippers should use a syn. What about you guys. Since I am dumping the oil so often is it better i use a conventional?


For the prices I get synthetic oil for a see no reason to use anything but. Syn is better in cold and extreme heat, I think it cleans better too. JHRZ [sp] is right i think.

 

[rw19]

JHRZ (sp?) knows his stuff. I have always used syn in all my cars. I doubt myself sometimes when it comes to motor oil. Always looking for the best thing out there.

 

[A_Harman]

Originally Posted By: rw19
Turk. Its a curse. I need to attend a WOT rehab. It was fun when I was younger... Thought I would grow out of it... Hasn't happened yet. I will give it till I am 30 and if it doesnt change I will seriously think about attending speed anonymous meetings.


You need to get that Caddy out to the race track and do some track days. That'll satisfy your need for speed. Then you won't drive like a psycho on the street. Or at least not as much.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: Clevy
Trust me. I get my foot into it. That's how I know it will do the 160mph on the speedo however there's a time and a place.
If I've gotta do some running around in the city I'll get my foot into it to get in front of traffic and I love peeling off the line but on my commute to work there's no reason I can find to drive like a maniac.
Once oil temps reach 180F then 5500rpm shifts. Considering I can do 100mph in 3rd gear I need a lot of highway to have real fun.
But yep,driving her like a Camry,which is likely why I'm getting Camry-like fuel efficiency.
I love cars with power. Knowing its there gives me that warm fuzzy feeling,using it gives me that hot tingly feeling.
This car will go from 60mph to 100mph in less than 4 seconds which is definitely the hot tingly feeling.
I'm glad there's this car to be honest. A guy had to buy a GTP if he wanted a domestic family sedan that was able to excite him from time to time. Now that same guy can buy one of these. Its a sport sedan that can go from the grocery store to the track and gets the mileage of a much smaller 6 cylinder import n
I was never a dodge guy. I've owned many but only because the price was right.
In fact last winter I got that hemi quad cab because it was very inexpensive but I began to appreciate what a hemi was capable of as far as durability and dependability from owning that truck.
And mds is just amazing. Flawless in how it works and the mileage increase is significant.
I'm a mustang guy through and through and I love the Windsor small block however the hemi is definitely carving a niche in my heart as far as being a dependable daily driver capable of blowing your hair back at will.


Most will never know because they buy into the popular anti-Chrysler drivel that flows like rain around here. Some of us have noted that rear drive platforms from them have improved dramatically, and they are durable and economical. I have driven around all day and never gone over 2 grand, and it is effortless to keep up with the little guys flogging the bees knees out of their econocars.

If I buy something I expect the ENTIRE performance envelope. There is no way I will tip toe around imagining that I am somehow extending the life of the car. That is simply not true.

Then that effortless power begins to talk, and you're hooked...

 

[A_Harman]

Originally Posted By: rw19
On a more serious note. I know JHRZ (sp?) says that short trippers should use a syn. What about you guys. Since I am dumping the oil so often is it better i use a conventional?


You're running M1 0w40, so don't dump it so often. Change according to the oil life monitor.

 

[lexus114]

Originally Posted By: artificialist
I can't exactly prove it, but in high school, the Honda "tuner" crowd who redlined their engines regularly blew blue smoke. It hardly ever happened to Hondas driven by gentler drivers.

BMW has a way of warning people that redlining a cold engine was bad. The tachometer would move the red zone to a lower RPM until proper temperature was reached.



Thats because they are econo engines. And these kids think by adding a cold intake, and F*RT can muffler makes it an instant race motor.

 

[Errtt]

Used to have one boss that insist that WOT is not good on a regular basis (whatever that means) but doing a few 75-85% throttle runs a few times a week is better and less strain on the drive train. That was back when I didn't listen to the boss much those days as he was always a big pusher on so many snake oil products for the gas tanks and cheap oil additives, plus the type who wouldn't run a air filter, thermostat etc.

 

[Benzadmiral]

Originally Posted By: Clevy
. . . But yep,driving her like a Camry,which is likely why I'm getting Camry-like fuel efficiency.
I love cars with power. Knowing its there gives me that warm fuzzy feeling,using it gives me that hot tingly feeling.
This car will go from 60mph to 100mph in less than 4 seconds which is definitely the hot tingly feeling.
I'm glad there's this car to be honest. A guy had to buy a GTP if he wanted a domestic family sedan that was able to excite him from time to time. Now that same guy can buy one of these. Its a sport sedan that can go from the grocery store to the track and gets the mileage of a much smaller 6 cylinder import . . .

And mds is just amazing. Flawless in how it works and the mileage increase is significant.
I'm a mustang guy through and through and I love the Windsor small block however the hemi is definitely carving a niche in my heart as far as being a dependable daily driver capable of blowing your hair back at will.

I never thought about the Charger, because, remembering the original 2-door Chargers of the Sixties, I had this notion, "It's a 4-door sedan, it ain't a real Charger." But I've been seeing some of them around. The styling's been growing on me. Your testimony is another good point.

 

[Olas]

At normal operating temperature, WOT is perfdectly fine so long as you're not banging into the limiter all the time.

If it's cold or cool or warm but NOT HOT, WOT is a bottom-end killer.

 

[KitaCam]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8


Most will never know because they buy into the popular anti-Chrysler drivel that flows like rain around here. Some of us have noted that rear drive platforms from them have improved dramatically, and they are durable and economical. I have driven around all day and never gone over 2 grand, and it is effortless to keep up with the little guys flogging the bees knees out of their econocars.

If I buy something I expect the ENTIRE performance envelope. There is no way I will tip toe around imagining that I am somehow extending the life of the car. That is simply not true.

Then that effortless power begins to talk, and you're hooked...


It has of course a lot to do with the effective torque...and yes, getting hooked on that special sweetspot every engine-tranny combo has...

Kitacam's MT cruises comfortably @ 2k, but doesn't get "cooking" until 2500k rpm (like most econoboxes I suspect)....I've always felt that MTs shifting @ 3.5k-4.5k can efficiently pull away from red lights plenty quick without WOT, while econo-ATs running on auto-pilot are ineffective and can't (giving them their well deserved poor reputation), having sacrificed performance for MPG...

I'll generally glide @ 2k-2500 rpm...but....

...if quick lane changing is needed on local streets and 2-lane highways, I run Kitacam in lower gears @ about 2500 rpms as I had with so many 4-sp gear boxes through the 70s and 80s (Bimmer 2002, Fiat Spider, Mitsu/Dodge Sapporo-Galant),...that gives me more gitup-n-go torque and just enough engine braking to keep me under the MPH limit....and just leave 5th in the bullpen until cruizin' at interstate speeds 65+mph (@ 2500-3k rpm again)....


I get razzed a lot from those who have never driven MT Camrys, but I get it why they wouldn't understand...what I wish for now is an MT hooked up to the V6 like Toyo did until this century...THAT would be SOMEthing.

 

[rockydee]

How did 2K rpm become a magic number for a cold engine? Reaching 2,200 or 2,500 from gradual acceleration is bad?

 

[SatinSilver]

Originally Posted By: KitaCam
I get razzed a lot from those who have never driven MT Camrys


It may something to do with referring to the car as "kitacam" all the time.

 

[OVERKILL]

The "progressive redline" on the M5 starts at 4K. I typically shift it around 2-3 until the oil temp is around 75C. IIRC, this is a bit more conservative than the car, as full redline is revealed at around 70C or so.