Your thoughts on Valvoline NEXGEN
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Originally Posted By: civic09
Yeah, since I dont put many miles so far on the Corolla, I may go to 6k then dump it.
adam
Is that Corolla one of the infamous for sludge issues?
Yeah, since I dont put many miles so far on the Corolla, I may go to 6k then dump it.
adam
Is that Corolla one of the infamous for sludge issues?
gear heads engineers on sat. here would not use it at all!!!tore engines apart and saw the wear that this oil did!!!no thanks.let the greenies use it.
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Originally Posted By: boxcartommie22
gear heads engineers on sat. here would not use it at all!!! tore engines apart and saw the wear that this oil did!!!
Yeah, I'm so sure!!!
gear heads engineers on sat. here would not use it at all!!! tore engines apart and saw the wear that this oil did!!!
Yeah, I'm so sure!!!
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I don't like it. If I'm paying today's oil prices, I want BRAND NEW oil.
Agreed! It's going to take a lot more than just hype to get me buying it.
Not a flame, just curious as to why you care whether the oil is new or recycled. You're paying for a result in terms of lubrication, cleanliness etc.
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I don't like it. If I'm paying today's oil prices, I want BRAND NEW oil.
Agreed! It's going to take a lot more than just hype to get me buying it.
Not a flame, just curious as to why you care whether the oil is new or recycled. You're paying for a result in terms of lubrication, cleanliness etc.
Originally Posted By: teddyboy
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I don't like it. If I'm paying today's oil prices, I want BRAND NEW oil.
Agreed! It's going to take a lot more than just hype to get me buying it.
Not a flame, just curious as to why you care whether the oil is new or recycled. You're paying for a result in terms of lubrication, cleanliness etc.
No flame, but why should I use a recycled product that costs more, when a product like Pennzoil conventional can be had for less and is better? *[Or for those who want to call me out on that statement, as good can be filled in for better]. Please note Castrol, SOPUS and Mobil's dino products are probably better* too. Now if the Valvoline product proves to be better and competitively priced I have no problem using it. Also keep in mind when we take our waste oil to a collection center or store it can also be used for fuel as already mentioned, or other products as well. So why stick it in cars when cheaper alternatives already exist? In fact if Mobil, Pennzoil, or any of the companies I mentioned rolls out a recycled product that kicks butt and the price right I'm in, until then no thanks Valvoline.
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I don't like it. If I'm paying today's oil prices, I want BRAND NEW oil.
Agreed! It's going to take a lot more than just hype to get me buying it.
Not a flame, just curious as to why you care whether the oil is new or recycled. You're paying for a result in terms of lubrication, cleanliness etc.
No flame, but why should I use a recycled product that costs more, when a product like Pennzoil conventional can be had for less and is better? *[Or for those who want to call me out on that statement, as good can be filled in for better]. Please note Castrol, SOPUS and Mobil's dino products are probably better* too. Now if the Valvoline product proves to be better and competitively priced I have no problem using it. Also keep in mind when we take our waste oil to a collection center or store it can also be used for fuel as already mentioned, or other products as well. So why stick it in cars when cheaper alternatives already exist? In fact if Mobil, Pennzoil, or any of the companies I mentioned rolls out a recycled product that kicks butt and the price right I'm in, until then no thanks Valvoline.
Originally Posted By: boxcartommie22
gear heads engineers on sat. here would not use it at all!!!tore engines apart and saw the wear that this oil did!!!no thanks.let the greenies use it.
Wait...what?
gear heads engineers on sat. here would not use it at all!!!tore engines apart and saw the wear that this oil did!!!no thanks.let the greenies use it.
Wait...what?
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: teddyboy
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I don't like it. If I'm paying today's oil prices, I want BRAND NEW oil.
Agreed! It's going to take a lot more than just hype to get me buying it.
Not a flame, just curious as to why you care whether the oil is new or recycled. You're paying for a result in terms of lubrication, cleanliness etc.
No flame, but why should I use a recycled product that costs more, when a product like Pennzoil conventional can be had for less and is better? *[Or for those who want to call me out on that statement, as good can be filled in for better]. Please note Castrol, SOPUS and Mobil's dino products are probably better* too. Now if the Valvoline product proves to be better and competitively priced I have no problem using it. Also keep in mind when we take our waste oil to a collection center or store it can also be used for fuel as already mentioned, or other products as well. So why stick it in cars when cheaper alternatives already exist? In fact if Mobil, Pennzoil, or any of the companies I mentioned rolls out a recycled product that kicks butt and the price right I'm in, until then no thanks Valvoline.
My response was to the notion that you want "new oil". I agree completely with the notion that you want the best protection at the best price. The notion that you would prefer a product simply because the basestock was "new" doesn't fit your paradigm, however.
Originally Posted By: teddyboy
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I don't like it. If I'm paying today's oil prices, I want BRAND NEW oil.
Agreed! It's going to take a lot more than just hype to get me buying it.
Not a flame, just curious as to why you care whether the oil is new or recycled. You're paying for a result in terms of lubrication, cleanliness etc.
No flame, but why should I use a recycled product that costs more, when a product like Pennzoil conventional can be had for less and is better? *[Or for those who want to call me out on that statement, as good can be filled in for better]. Please note Castrol, SOPUS and Mobil's dino products are probably better* too. Now if the Valvoline product proves to be better and competitively priced I have no problem using it. Also keep in mind when we take our waste oil to a collection center or store it can also be used for fuel as already mentioned, or other products as well. So why stick it in cars when cheaper alternatives already exist? In fact if Mobil, Pennzoil, or any of the companies I mentioned rolls out a recycled product that kicks butt and the price right I'm in, until then no thanks Valvoline.
My response was to the notion that you want "new oil". I agree completely with the notion that you want the best protection at the best price. The notion that you would prefer a product simply because the basestock was "new" doesn't fit your paradigm, however.
I'm all for conservation..BUT the price of the product must be reasonable ...nextgen is too expensive for what it is.
Now if they were not ducking around with consumers and were offering the oil on special for 1.50 a qt or 7.50 5qt jug I would definitely be buying it. Don't expect me to jump through silly marketing hoops MIRs to sample your product.
Now if they were not ducking around with consumers and were offering the oil on special for 1.50 a qt or 7.50 5qt jug I would definitely be buying it. Don't expect me to jump through silly marketing hoops MIRs to sample your product.
Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I don't like it. If I'm paying today's oil prices, I want BRAND NEW oil.
You obviously are not into recycling.
I wish you were and so does our Material Earth that houses our used products.
Landfills are not of unlimited properties. We cannot keep polluting the earth at our current dump expansion rate.
Go Green ... A.S.A.P
That's funny because you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.
We've got 3 toters:
Gray toter - Non recyclables sealed up in trash bags
Green toter - grass, leaves, and tree branches
Blue toter - Recyclable materials such as glass, plastic, tin cans, newspapers, and cardboard.
You know those black plastic dishes that frozen dinners come in? They get WASHED with
the sink sprayer before they go into the blue toter. Same with the kitty cat food cans.
By the way, my used motor oil goes to Walmart so that Valvoline can come by and pick it up to make NextGen out of.
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I don't like it. If I'm paying today's oil prices, I want BRAND NEW oil.
You obviously are not into recycling.
I wish you were and so does our Material Earth that houses our used products.
Landfills are not of unlimited properties. We cannot keep polluting the earth at our current dump expansion rate.
Go Green ... A.S.A.P
That's funny because you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.
We've got 3 toters:
Gray toter - Non recyclables sealed up in trash bags
Green toter - grass, leaves, and tree branches
Blue toter - Recyclable materials such as glass, plastic, tin cans, newspapers, and cardboard.
You know those black plastic dishes that frozen dinners come in? They get WASHED with
the sink sprayer before they go into the blue toter. Same with the kitty cat food cans.
By the way, my used motor oil goes to Walmart so that Valvoline can come by and pick it up to make NextGen out of.
Why is it that crude can set under bedrock, in shale, or be stuck to surface sand for thousands of years and once it is processed it is new? At the same time, if it is processed from a highly refined, fully formulated blend that has resided in an engine for a few months before it is processed, then it is old? As a general rule, I think that recycled, reprocessed oil will actually be a better basestock than it was at the first pass.
Originally Posted By: GMorg
Why is it that crude can set under bedrock, in shale, or be stuck to surface sand for thousands of years and once it is processed it is new? At the same time, if it is processed from a highly refined, fully formulated blend that has resided in an engine for a few months before it is processed, then it is old? As a general rule, I think that recycled, reprocessed oil will actually be a better basestock than it was at the first pass.
Psychological disorders(or 'needs').
Why is it that crude can set under bedrock, in shale, or be stuck to surface sand for thousands of years and once it is processed it is new? At the same time, if it is processed from a highly refined, fully formulated blend that has resided in an engine for a few months before it is processed, then it is old? As a general rule, I think that recycled, reprocessed oil will actually be a better basestock than it was at the first pass.
Psychological disorders(or 'needs').
If NextGen is so great, then why doesn't Valvoline make it out of 100% used oil? Why 50% used oil and 50% new oil?
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
If NextGen is so great, then why doesn't Valvoline make it out of 100% used oil? Why 50% used oil and 50% new oil?
Great question to ask them.
If NextGen is so great, then why doesn't Valvoline make it out of 100% used oil? Why 50% used oil and 50% new oil?
Great question to ask them.
Originally Posted By: ltslimjim
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
If NextGen is so great, then why doesn't Valvoline make it out of 100% used oil? Why 50% used oil and 50% new oil?
Great question to ask them.
I think I've got the answer: People would be scared to death to run 100% used oil.
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
If NextGen is so great, then why doesn't Valvoline make it out of 100% used oil? Why 50% used oil and 50% new oil?
Great question to ask them.
I think I've got the answer: People would be scared to death to run 100% used oil.
I tell you what if Valvoline utilizes 100% recycled oil and prices it at 1.75 per quart they will have a huge seller on their hands. Even at that price they WILL make a good profit too.
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