You thought burning people alive was bad?

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What's amazing is that 'some people' still won't call them 'muslim terrorists'.....
 
A good portion of the slave and human trafficking trade goes trough Israel. In fact, Israel is #1.

Like the Africans that sold their own people into slavery, Im sure the Muslim world does exactly the same.
 
The subtle language of violence. Horrifying. But it is what happens when you topple brutal dictators(Iraq) or cripple their power(Syria). Will we ever regain control of the military-industrial complex and refrain from these foreign boondoggles.

The people in the region have not come to grips with how to defend themselves. Jordan seems aroused. The Kurds are valiant as always. But what of the Iraq and Syrian authorities. Not one more drop of American blood should be shed. Let those brutalized arise and defend themselves or submit to their fate.
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
A good portion of the slave and human trafficking trade goes trough Israel. In fact, Israel is #1...
Citation please.
 
From a strategy standpoint I do not understand ISIS. I might want to take over large parts of Iraq and Syria but I would not want the American military after me, especially special forces. They have [censored] off various European countries along with Japan and the US. I cannot believe burning people alive gets them more recruits from Western countries.

If they push the US over the edge and we put boots on the ground there is no question we could wipe them out. There are only 20,000 to 30,000 ISIS fighters and they cannot be well trained and the largest weapons they have are some tanks, and RPGs, handheld anti-aircraft missiles.
 
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There are only 20,000 to 30,000 ISIS fighters and they cannot be well trained and the largest weapons they have are some tanks, and RPGs, handheld anti-aircraft missiles.


Yup, and the locals will treat us as liberators.
 
Many of the Isis fighters were the same guys giving the marines such a hard time in Iraq before the Surge. I saw on Charlie Rose the former DIA director saying that these guys were holding off our marines back then and that for a while, we 'were not winning'.


Not saying our boots on the ground couldn't wipe them out if not hamstrung by politician's rules.

Was it ever determined how the Jordanian f-16 went down?
 
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
To get the pilot back they should have said if you don't release him unharmed we'll let the lady go and not execute her.


Eh? Can you clarify this, i don't get it.
 
Originally Posted By: DoiInthanon
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
A good portion of the slave and human trafficking trade goes trough Israel. In fact, Israel is #1...
Citation please.


Agree. I call Bee Ess.

Israel is a Tier 1 country.

There seems to be some kind of increase in Israel hate here. What's up with that?

US Source: http://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/2014/index.htm
Lib source: http://www.businessinsider.com/r-us-says...centers-2014-20
Semi independent source: http://www.theguardian.com/global-develo...fficking-report
 
My guess is Trav he meant to say if you release the pilot unharmed we will let the lady terrorist go and not execute her.

The problem with this is they had already executed the pilot by burning him alive (apparently on January 3rd) and they were trying to get the terrorist woman back by saying they would release the pilot, but the pilot was already dead. Jordan apparently suspected that (rightly so, as it turns out) and demanded proof of the pilot being alive.

ISIS can not be believed in any way whatsoever. They will not negotiate prisoner exchanges in a fair manner. If Jordan had turned over the woman terrorist ISIS would have got her back but the pilot was already dead.
 
Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
To get the pilot back they should have said if you don't release him unharmed we'll let the lady go and not execute her.


Eh? Can you clarify this, i don't get it.


I think it was a joke, release the pilot or we release the nagging woman and return her to you. I think thats the jist of the joke.
 
I have never heard anything about human slave trafficking going through Israel. The security is so tight in Israel I do not even know how that could possibly happen unless there was government approval.

I have heard of human slave trafficking in Sudan, human trafficking crossing the northern border of the USA from Canada, possible human slavery in Saudi Arabia, North Koreans serving as slave labor in China, and human trafficking in parts of Asia.

I am not an expert on this but I have watched some special reports on TV.
 
Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
To get the pilot back they should have said if you don't release him unharmed we'll let the lady go and not execute her.


Eh? Can you clarify this, i don't get it.


Their and her ultimate goal in life is to become a martyr. If they let her go they and she will have failed. She will have disgraced her god. There's a word for it in Arabic but I can't even begin to spell it. It's a very bad word. It's almost as bad as being called a Christian, almost.
 
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: DoiInthanon
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
A good portion of the slave and human trafficking trade goes trough Israel. In fact, Israel is #1...
Citation please.


Agree. I call Bee Ess.

Israel is a Tier 1 country.

There seems to be some kind of increase in Israel hate here. What's up with that?

US Source: http://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/2014/index.htm
Lib source: http://www.businessinsider.com/r-us-says...centers-2014-20
Semi independent source: http://www.theguardian.com/global-develo...fficking-report
Al JHZRA is just trying to divert attention from the miserable failed societies dominated by Muslims. Al figures if he throws enough poo on the wall some will stick. Pathetic.
 
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: DoiInthanon
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
A good portion of the slave and human trafficking trade goes trough Israel. In fact, Israel is #1...
Citation please.


Agree. I call Bee Ess.

Israel is a Tier 1 country.

There seems to be some kind of increase in Israel hate here. What's up with that?

US Source: http://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/2014/index.htm
Lib source: http://www.businessinsider.com/r-us-says...centers-2014-20
Semi independent source: http://www.theguardian.com/global-develo...fficking-report


Only the last report turned them to Tier 1. They were tier 2 or 2WL for all up until the last cycle. The were Tier 3 previously.

Times of Israel indicates that there are at least 8500 slaves there.

If you read the times of Israel it explains why but it has to do with the legality of certain services.
 
Originally Posted By: DoiInthanon
Al JHZRA is just trying to divert attention from the miserable failed societies dominated by Muslims. Al figures if he throws enough poo on the wall some will stick. Pathetic.


And why exactly would I care? Im no fan of ANY of those societies. But let's call a spade a spade as to the completeness of issues over there.
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
A good portion of the slave and human trafficking trade goes trough Israel. In fact, Israel is #1.

Like the Africans that sold their own people into slavery, Im sure the Muslim world does exactly the same.


Israel has an estimated 6,500 slaves, according to a resent study of global slavery. Israel is ranked at 142 out of 167 slave holding countries in the Global Slavery Index, recently published and verified by the Australian Walk Free Foundation.

If someone believes Israel is number one it's possible that they are a follower of David Duke and his social organization. Duke often goes out of his way to make outrageous comments about Israel. As an outside observer one can say he is obsessed with all things Jewish. Ranking Israel as number one might not be an accurate assessment according to people in the business of tracking such problems.

PS. The United States is in 145th place.
 
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